date: Tue Oct 7 11:05:35 2008
from: Phil Jones
subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS
to: "Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA)"
Jo,
OK, should have some idea by the end of Wednesday.
I'm off again on Oct 20 for 6 days, so would need to complete
the work by Oct 20.
Cheers
Phil
At 10:57 07/10/2008, you wrote:
Hi Phil,
A final e-mail before you leave. When youve had a chance to look at whats required to
finalise the report in more detail, could you send me a revised estimate of how many
days effort you think it will take you to finish it, along with confirmation of your
daily rate, so that we can draw up an agreement for payment? I also wanted to let you
know that the UNFCCC have confirmed that theyre able to wait until the 24^th of October
for the report to be submitted, so wed need to get something submitted by then (ideally
having sent it to Paul Mason and possibly other members of the GECC obs subgroup to look
over before then, though I appreciate that we may be pushed for time on this).
Hope this is okay.
Thanks,
Jo
From: Phil Jones [[1]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2008 09:39
To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA)
Subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS
Jo,
The only person I knew at the Windermere centre - of the Freshwater Biological
Association
is Glen George. His email is
[2]glen@abercuch.wanadoo.co.uk
I found this from a web search.
[3]http://www.ies.aber.ac.uk/staff/academic/glen-george
This is clearly the right person, but he seems to be retired now.
[4]http://www.fba.org.uk/index/about.html - this link is the place Paul
is talking about. Glen used to work for CEH based at the FBA (or next to it).
This page says Michael Dobson is the current director. The CEH (Windermere)
web site is undergoing restoration. I think this maybe because CEH has
closed this centre.
Not got us much further forward.
Cheers
Phil
At 09:13 07/10/2008, you wrote:
Dear Phil,
That sounds fine to me. Ill send the report to Jon Turton and any contact that Guy
Winter can give me in SEPA, asking them to fill in any gaps and return the new versions
of the reports to us both with track changes on ideally before the end of the week so
theyre there when you get back.
Late yesterday, Paul Mason pointed out one other site well need information on, which is
Lake Windermere for the lake network. Doug Wilson of the environment agency didnt
provide any information about this, but I can try contacting him again to double-check.
Do you know of anyone who might have this information?
Enjoy the meeting I hope the key-note goes well (and that they werent expecting it to be
in Spanish!)
Jo
From: Phil Jones [ [5]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2008 09:03
To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA)
Subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS
Jo,
Apologies for not getting back yesterday afternoon.
Yes it would be useful sending to Jon Turton to ask if he can fill
in any missing info. As for SEPA, I did some work for them about 5
years ago, but the person I dealt with has moved on. I'm involved
with the UKCIP08 work (Kathryn Humphrey leads on this at DEFRA).
On the steering committee of this is Guy Winter - who may know
who you could contact.
"Winter, Guy (SEERAD)" .
SEERAD is the Scottish Executive Environment, Rural Affairs Dept, I think.
Not sure how this links to SEPA. Devolution has led to having to
know more contacts - I presume Wales and NI are OK. The same
steering committee has these two contacts
"Barry McAuley"
"Britton, Nicola (WAG-EPC)"
but for the moment lets's assume that with Jon and any contact Guy can
help you with at SEPA will be enough. I'd just email Guy and ask for
a name, after a little background.
So this should be enough for the moment. On emailing, I think I meant
contacting you to ask any specific questions and to let you know how
I'm getting on.
Hope you get to find out soon where you'll be moving to!
I'll be leaving about 2pm today.
Cheers
Phil
At 12:14 06/10/2008, you wrote:
Hi Phil,
That sounds fine to me though from my own experience trying to chase people for inputs
to the report, Im afraid it might take them some time to get back to you. With this in
mind, would it help if I sent the report to people and asked for their inputs while you
are away (just to keep things moving)? Jon Turton at the Met Office provided previous
inputs, so I could ask him to fill in the gaps marked with **?** in the table entries
that the Met Office is responsible for if that would help (though he may not have done
this before because he didnt know). Similarly, I could ask SEPA for information on the
terrestrial networks, though Im not sure who the contact would be do you have any ideas?
Im around all week, so feel free to e-mail/call me did you mean for suggestions of who
you should contact, or who we should contact? If its the former, Im afraid I may not
have the expertise to be much help, but I will certainly do my best. Let me know if you
think this will be a problem.
And yes, most of us working on climate change in Defra will be part of DECC (Dept for
Energy and Climate Change I think) from sometime soon. Weve been told very little about
it so far, but I think well be moving buildings sometime in the future, and well
obviously have a new boss!
Look forward to hearing from you about how we should proceed.
Best wishes,
Jo
From: Phil Jones [ [6]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 06 October 2008 11:26
To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA)
Subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS
Jo,
Have the latest draft. From your email it looks as though I will have to make
a few contacts when I get back. This will be fine, though I hope they will respond
quickly when I can email. I'll read the German and Swedish reports on the plane
tomorrow, and make a start on Wednesday. It looks like it will take longer
than I first anticipated, but hopefully not that much longer.
Will you be in later in the week? I might email with suggestions for who else to
contact.
Are you still in DEFRA by the way? I was just wondering what of DEFRA will
be in the new Climate Change and Energy Dept?
Cheers
Phil
At 10:09 06/10/2008, you wrote:
Hi Phil,
Many thanks for offering to do this both the timescale and cost would work very well for
us, so it would be great if you were able to do it.
In terms of the work involved, however, I should let you know that I ran the draft by
Paul Mason over the weekend and he thinks it still requires some input from the Met
Office (for the gaps in the atmospheric tables) and SEPA (for the terrestrial tables),
so you might need to contact them for some information. I also thought that some other
organisations might need to be contacted in order to answer some of the queries I
flagged up in yellow and to produce the narrative sections and consolidate the table
entries into single numbers with no text (as the other countries have done). Does this
fit with what you had in mind? If you need a few extra days to do this, wed be happy to
pay for those I just wanted to make sure you were aware of what was involved before
taking it on!
I look forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes,
Jo
P.S. Paul Mason made some small changes to the draft I sent you last week using track
changes. I have attached his edited version to this e-mail so that you have the most up
to date version of the report.
From: Phil Jones [ [7]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 06 October 2008 09:32
To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA)
Subject: Re: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS
Jo,
I've printed off the documents and should be able to do this. I am away in
Spain at a meeting from tomorrow afternoon until next Monday. I should be able
to do it then. I have learnt that several sessions at this meeting will be in Spanish.
I'm giving the first keynote talk in English!
As for the time this will take, I need to read some of it to decide. My guess
from a quick screen scan is that it is something in the range of 1-2 days. I'd
charge £500 per day for this. Let me know if this is OK? I leave for Spain about noon
tomorrow. I should be able to get something back to you next week - hopefully
the first part as I have teaching on Tues/Weds am.
Are you happy with a tracked changed version of your document? The original
Tables could be left in as Appendices.
I'm on the GCOS Atmospheric Observation Panel and we've looked at these national
submissions in earlier rounds.
Cheers
Phil
At 12:01 03/10/2008, you wrote:
Hi Phil,
Sorry to bother you with this, but I was hoping that you might be able to help us with a
small piece of work that we need completing over the next 2-3 weeks, or that you might
know someone who would (for a fee, of course).
The background to the request is that the UK needs to submit a report to the UNFCCC on
UK contributions to the Global Climate Observing System (GCOS) as soon as possible (the
deadline for submission has already passed, but we are seeking an extension).
We had originally hoped that we would be able to compile the report ourselves, as a
consultancy firm working for us agreed to help draft the report and circulate it to
interested parties for contributions. They have now done this, but the draft they
produced still needs some work. We therefore need someone with knowledge of the climate
observations made in the UK to produce a final version of the report from the draft that
we already have.
I have attached our latest draft of the report, along with the UNFCCC guidelines for
compiling the report and two examples of reports produced by other countries (Germany
and Sweden) so you can see roughly what the final version should look like. You will
notice that the main issue with our report is that the UNFCCC need narrative information
on the UK contribution to GCOS (as mentioned in paras 12, 13/15, 16-18, 20-23/25 of the
guidelines) and very brief summary tables, whereas our report has almost all the
information in tables. So the main job would be to transfer the extra information in the
tables into narrative form, as set out in the guidelines, as well as filling in any gaps
and answering the questions flagged up in yellow in the report.
Would you be willing to take this project on? If so, could you provide us with an
estimate of the cost of the work and when you would be able to complete it by? If not,
it would be a great help if you could suggest anyone with the appropriate expertise who
might be able to do so.
Please feel free to give me a ring if you need any more details (0207 238 3384).
Many thanks for your help,
Jo
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