date: Wed Aug 23 08:26:26 2000 from: Mike Hulme subject: Re: Seeking some advice re CR to: "Whetton, Peter" Peter, Never quite dealt with this issue before - I think you are right to point it out at this stage and give the authors opportunity to re-write. Without having read the paragraphs in question, there is sometimes a fine line between plagiarism and summarising (and properly citing) work that has been published elsewhere. But it is always best to err on the safe side! Mike At 13:28 23/08/00 +1000, you wrote: Mike, Sorry to bother you again, but I would appreciate your (private) advice on another matter. It concerns the Lal et al manuscript you passed on to me to deal with in my capacity as an editor for Climate Research. I have what I think is an unsual issue to deal with, and your editorial experience might be useful to draw upon. I may decide to consult with one or more current CR editors in an official manner, but I am unfamiliar with what is normal practice, and I would appreciate your views. I also don't want to consult any more widely than is essential (for reasons that will become obvious). I have three reviews and my decision is that the paper needs major revision and re-review. That's fine. The issue is that some portions of the paper (model descriptions and some of the discussion) are clearly not the authors' own writing. Indeed, some of the material at issue is almost verbatim use of WGI TAR draft text (not written by the paper's authors). However, I have no doubts about the originality of the core of the paper. The reviewers' comments do not mention this issue, but in responding to their comments, the authors would need, in any case, to substantially modify the offending bits. I also see that if the paper is re-reviewed, the reviewers will have to be alerted to the issue. I was hoping that you might comment on how I have dealt with this issue in the attached draft of my covering letter to the authors (paragraph three is the key bit). The fact that the lead author is well known to me doesn't help. (I don't know the communicating author). If you would rather not comment, that is fine. Cheers Peter <>