date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:24:54 +0000 from: Tim Osborn subject: Re: FW: TOR temperature reconstruction to: "Myles Allen" , "Martin Juckes" ,"Gabi Hegerl" , "Keith Briffa" At 13:28 09/02/2005, Myles Allen wrote: >We appear to be it. The original TOR suggested 80keuro might be >available, and it seems we can reasonably bid for a fair chunk (up to all >if it's justifiable) of that money. This suggests we could include some >personnel costs as well as travel. I've already talked this over with >Martin: would Gabi or Tim be interested, either in the form of salary >support via your institutions or as direct sub-contractors (I'm easy >either way)? I assume, from Keith's e-mail, that Keith only wants travel >support. Hi Myles I can't find a copy of the TOR or of Keith's reply, but want to re-iterate the basic tone of Keith's message which is that neither of us could contribute in the next, say, 3 months due to other commitments. But if the time scale extends considerably beyond that, then we can start talking! Some salary support in return for well-defined tasks might be possible - depending on the size and whether this was enough to pay a post doc for a few months, or are you just talking a few days "consultancy"? Alternatively, of course we could collaborate, though would you expect us to be sharing our already developed ideas and plans regarding the "hockey stick" issue, given that we plan to undertake some such work ourselves, as written into existing projects/proposals? Sorry if this sounds hard-nosed! I don't mean to be, but am just torn between (i) avoiding committing too much from ourselves, whether funded or not; (ii) maintaining a spirit of collaboration; and (iii) ensuring that we can continue to make our own unique/independent contribution to this issue. Ideally the time table would stretch to allow us to make a fuller contribution later in the year, but since it's probably very much a policy-driven problem, I guess the Dutch want the answer ASAP! Could you expand on what you would want from us? Anyway, thanks for inviting us and maybe we can work something out. Best wishes Tim Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm