cc: Nathan Gillett , Gabi Hegerl , Peter Stott , Toru Nozawa , Alexey Karpechko , Michael Wehner date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:34:43 +0100 (BST) from: Dáithí Stone subject: Re: Fwd: Decision on Nature manuscript 2008-04-03762 to: Phil Jones I agree there probably isn't any point in trying Science now. Nature Geoscience could be worth a try, I haven't figure out how they work yet. Or GRL. Or perhaps Environmental Research Letters? They've looked pretty good so far and by the breadth of perhaps seem to have a reasonably broad readership. DA On Thu, 1 May 2008, Phil Jones wrote: > > Nathan, > I would expect Science to make the same decision as Nature, > unfortunately. > It seems that they both want papers which have a little more controversy. > I though this might, when it comes to the Antarctic, but this seems only an > issue to an educated few. > Have a look at GRL. I think I recall a few papers in this with > supplementary > material. The GRL formula that works out the size is a little odd. I have > been > involved in a couple recently that have been 7pp. Looking at these, > (attached), > I attribute this to having near full page diagrams! > > I'd vote for GRL, as it will likely involve less work than going to J. > Climate. > If it is then too big for GRL, JGR would do. > > Cheers > Phil > > > At 00:13 01/05/2008, Nathan Gillett wrote: >> Hi all, >> Unfortunately Nature didn't go for our polar detection paper, so we've >> got to decide where to send it now. We could try Science, though this >> may yield a similar answer, GRL, as originally planned (this would >> mean not including the figures in the supplementary material), or >> perhaps J. Clim. Other suggestions/votes welcome. I'm out of the >> office for the next couple of weeks, but I'll get back to this after >> that... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nathan >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: >> Date: 2008/4/29 >> Subject: Decision on Nature manuscript 2008-04-03762 >> To: n.gillett@uea.ac.uk >> >> >> 29th April 2008 >> >> Dear Dr Gillett >> >> Thank you for submitting your manuscript, "Attribution of polar >> warming to human influence", for consideration. As you may know, in >> deciding which papers to publish we have to make an editorial >> judgement about the immediacy of interest for a general audience, the >> degree of advance provided, and the like. In practice, this means that >> we decline a substantial proportion of manuscripts without sending >> them to referees, in cases where we feel that, even if referees were >> to certify the manuscript as technically correct, there would not be a >> strong case for publication in Nature, rather than a specialist >> journal. >> >> In the present case, we have no doubt that your analysis will be of >> value to others seeking to quantify the anthropogenic influence in >> records of polar temperature change, not only for the claim of a >> detectable anthropogenic signal in Antarctica but also for the >> methodology that you have adopted to achieve this. But I regret that >> we are unable to conclude that the paper provides the sort of >> conceptual advance in scientific understanding of the underlying >> physical processes (and the magnitude thereof) that would warrant >> publication in Nature rather than in a more specialised journal. >> Having said this, we do appreciate the topicality of your findings and >> if you would let us know when the paper has finally been accepted for >> publication elsewhere, we could then explore the possibility of >> highlighting these results elsewhere in the magazine. >> >> I am sorry that we cannot respond more positively, and I hope that >> you will understand that our decision in no way reflects any doubts >> about the quality of the work reported. The unfortunate fact is that >> we receive many more papers than we can undertake to publish, and we >> must attempt to select those that will be of the greatest interest to >> a wide audience. I hope that you will rapidly receive a more >> favourable response elsewhere. >> >> Yours sincerely >> >> Karl Ziemelis >> Physical Sciences Editor, Nature >> Nature's author and policy information sites are at >> www.nature.com/nature/submit/. >> >> >> ** As a service to authors, Nature Publishing Group provides authors >> with the ability to transfer a manuscript that one journal cannot >> offer to publish to another journal, without the author having to >> upload the manuscript data again. 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