cc: p.jones@uea.ac.uk, k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, mann@psu.edu, wanner@giub.unibe.ch, thorsten.kiefer@pages.unibe.ch date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 05:53:43 -0700 from: Andrew Weaver subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop to: Eystein Jansen , Christoph Kull Seems like an excellent and creative idea! Cheers andrew > Hi, > this seems very good to me. Since Phil has this > contact I am sure there are no hidden strings > associated. > > Eystein > > > At 11:12 +0200 24-10-05, Christoph Kull wrote: >> Dear Andrew, dear Eystein, >> While organizing the planned PAGES/CLIVAR workshop on past millennia >> variability we asked CLIVAR to financially contribute in a similar way as >> already approved by PAGES (10k). Unfortunately, CLIVAR's budget situation >> seems to be quite difficult, and therefore CLIVAR isn't able to provide the >> expected support. While discussing what to do, Phil Jones brought a >> possibility up to discussion that seems to be very promising - Thanks a lot >> Phil!!! >> >> As seen below, EPRI ( Electric Power Research Institute) could become a >> co-organizer. This looks like a really good idea to proceed with the >> organization of this event! We therefore would like to inform you about the >> development and would like to get some feedback from you as PAGES/CLIVAR >> foci leaders in order to afterwards proceed with the event organization. >> See the emails below for further information on the planned / suggested EPRI >> involvement. >> >> Please let me know by Wednesday your comments! >> >> >> All the best, thanks a lot! >> Cheers, >> Christoph >> -- >> Christoph Kull >> Science Officer >> PAGES IPO >> Sulgeneckstrasse 38 >> CH-3007 Bern >> Switzerland >> >> phone: +4131 312 31 53/33 >> fax: +4131 312 31 68 >> >> ------ Forwarded Message >>> From: "Williams, Larry" >>> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:47:11 -0700 >>> To: , , >>> , , , >>> >>> Cc: >>> Subject: FW: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop >>> >>> Gentlemen: >>> >>> It seems a happy coincidence has happened. With Joel Smith's help I have >>> been searching for many months for a way support a workshop on climate >>> variability. Armed with sufficient budget I have been somewhat surprised >>> at the difficulty of finding scientific talent willing to take on this >>> task. The main problem has been that there are two significant efforts >>> going on in this area that have the experts fully engaged. Between the >>> Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC and the US Climate Change Science >>> Program everyone who could contribute to this type of workshop seems to >>> be fully loaded (burnt out?) and not very interested in yet another set >>> of meetings. >>> >>> So when I read over the draft CLIVAR/PAGES Workshop 2006 I was very >>> pleased to see an agenda that would fit our needs very well. The general >>> scientific thrust outlined in your draft is right on target. The >>> additional benefits from our point of view are: >>> 1. excellent scientific leadership >>> 2. excellent proposed attendees (I recognize many-not all-names on >>> your list) >>> 3. workshop leading to peer-reviewed paper. >>> 4. cosponsorship by other funders-not just EPRI providing the budget >>> >>> The main additional features that I would like to propose would be: >>> 4. brief report on the workshop (cut and paste from the paper?) with >>> an emphasis on creating a list of the most important researchable topics >>> needed to advance the field. The main objective of this report and list >>> would be to use it as a guide for EPRI in funding follow-on research in >>> this area. We can discuss this further at some later time. >>> 5. Acknowledgement of Electric Power Research Institute financial >>> support in the paper and for the meeting. >>> >>> Let me give you a brief explanation of why we are interested in >>> supporting your workshop. In the 90's we had a significant component of >>> climate change science research that we initiated and supported. We had >>> strong involvement with NCAR through our MECCA project, a major carbon >>> cycle project (Carbon Cycle Model Linkage Project [CCMLP]-Colin >>> Prentice, Martin Heiman, Fortunate Joos, and 6 teams of modelers from >>> Europe and the US--see Section 3.6 of TAR for CCMLP references), the US >>> based ecosystem (VEMAP I and II) project, and many other worthy science >>> research efforts. Financial difficulties for the US electric industry >>> during this period eroded our science budget and these projects >>> gradually came to an end. Things are looking better now and we want to >>> get back in the business of supporting excellent climate change science >>> research. This workshop could be an entry point for us to a new period >>> of support for good science. >>> >>> Let me know if EPRI support for your workshop seems feasible from your >>> point of view. If it does we can discuss the next steps on how to >>> proceed. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Larry Williams >>> >>> Larry Williams, Ph.D. >>> Senior Technical Manager Global Climate >>> Electric Power Research Institute >>> Office: 650-855-2695 >>> Fax: 650-855-2950 >>> ljwillia@epri.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] >>> Sent: Wed 10/19/2005 8:13 AM >>> To: Joel Smith >>> Cc: Christoph Kull; Keith Briffa; Michael E. Mann; Heinz Wanner; >>> Thorsten Kiefer >>> Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Joel, >>> The workshop outline is attached. As I said on the phone, I'll be >>> away tomorrow and Friday. PAGES have their support of 10K$ (US) >>> for this and were hoping CLIVAR could match this. CLIVAR has >>> come back and told us that their budget situation isn't good at the >>> moment, and hope for better things later. At the moment >>> we are wondering whether we will go ahead with a smaller >>> workshop. These type of meetings need to be arranged some >>> time in advance because of people's diaries and possible fieldwork >>> commitments. The timing next June was to take advantage of >>> another meeting in London, so we could get North Americans and >>> others slightly cheaper. We also thought the Bernese Oberland in >>> June would also tempt people, together with the excellent list of >>> people we'd put together. >>> >>> Only the organizing committee (this email list) know of the >>> meeting, >>> as we've not approached the majority of the list to check >>> availability. >>> >>> Email Christoph and the others if you're interested. I'm sure >>> emphases >>> can be changed somewhat, but the main thrust is model/data comparisons >>> with respect to past variability. Emphasis would be on temperature, >>> but >>> we'd also look at variability of features such as ENSO, the NAO etc. >>> We've >>> all been to many meetings and know that numbers of 20-30 work best, >>> along with lots of discussion and relatively few presentations. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Prof. Phil Jones >>> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 >>> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 >>> University of East Anglia >>> Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk >>> NR4 7TJ >>> UK >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ---- >>> >>> >> >> ------ End of Forwarded Message >> >> >> Attachment converted: Nebbiolo:P-C-workshop_final 1.doc (WDBN/«IC») >> (0067F418) > > > -- > ______________________________________________________________ > Eystein Jansen > Professor/Director > Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and > Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen > Allégaten 55 > N-5007 Bergen > NORWAY > e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no > Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 > Fax: +47-55-584330 ============================================================================ Mailing Address: | Courier Address: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Weaver | Andrew Weaver School of Earth and Ocean Sciences | School of Earth and Ocean Sciences University of Victoria | at Ian Stewart Complex, Room 296a PO Box 3055 | University of Victoria Victoria, BC, V8W 3P6 | 3964 Gordon Head Road Canada | Victoria, BC, V8N 3X3, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: weaver@uvic.ca | Tel: (250) 472-4001 http://climate.uvic.ca | Fax: (250) 472-4004 ============================================================================