date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:23:04 +0000 from: Rick Battarbee subject: Re: fw6 to: k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, keith.alverson@pages.unibe.ch Keith, some random bits of info: 1. Matti, Bas and Andre responded rapidly and positively to the idea of HOLIVAR as a vehicle for FW6 - Andre suggested getting in touch with Duplessy (see below) which I haven't done (perhaps you could). 2. I'm off to Bonn tomorrow for the PEPIII torch handing ceremony with Thomas Litt - one item on the agenda from Ann-Marie Lezine is the use of PEPIII as a network (Keith will be aware of this) 3. Hans Brelen phoned me a couple of days ago about doing some evaluations for him (Marie Curie) but told me: (a) palaoclimate will be a specific component in FW6 - and they were writing the programme now; (b) he was thinking about how to put a network together, but would welcome help (c) his chief concern was that palaeo people from different groups didn't seem to communicate with each other and that should be the aim of the network. Although he know about HOLIVAR he wasn't aware that that was one of HOLIVAR's underlying reationales (d) he was disappointed about the failure of MUPPETS (out of his hands) but would like to see MUPPETS (son of) incorporated somehow into future plans (e) he and the Commission were looking for good networks to include in the programme as examples 4. I promised I would send him details of HOLIVAR asap. Keith, I think this is a fantastic opportunity to define community needs. My impression is that Brelen is foundering somewhat and is looking for help, and the request may be linked to there wish to put flesh on the bones of the network idea and use palaeo as an example (see e above). I think also that he only knows the palaeo that the EU has funded in the past and that his concepts are somewhat dated. For example I don't think he's fully aware of the developments in modelling that are currently taking place and the importance we are now beginning to attach to palaeo-data compariosns over the last 1000 years and longer. For me the agenda is the HOLIVAR agenda in networking all the archive people (continental, marine and ice core) with the instrumental and documentary groups - developing tools linked to MUPPETS type databases - linked to the modellers - incorporating some societal relevance through the historical and archaeological communitues, with a sophisticated training programme on all the skills. Good luck - great opportunity Cheers Rick >X-Sender: berger@mail.astr.ucl.ac.be >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:58:12 +0100 >To: Rick Battarbee >From: André Berger >Subject: Re: fw6 > > Dear Rick, > > I fully support the idea. Please contact J.Cl. Duplessy who is preparing a >paleoclimate network. > I suggested him to foresee a lot of connection with other networks in such >a way to be reasonable in size. > > Best wishes, > > André > > > > > At 18:03 25/02/02 +0000, you wrote: > Dear all, > > the HOLIVAR > community as a means of creating a European wide network of excellence > under Framework 6, focussing on high resolution data-model comparisons, > model predictability and the impacts of past climate change on ecosystems > > > What do you think? > > Best wishes > > Rick > > Professor R.W. Battarbee > Environmental Change Research Centre > University College London > 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP, UK. > Tel. +44 020 7679 7582, Fax +44 020 7679 7565 > http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/ecrc/Welcome.html > ************************************************************************* > Prof. A. BERGER > Université catholique de Louvain > Institut d'Astronomie et de Géophysique G. Lemaître > 2 Chemin du Cyclotron > LOUVAIN-LA-NEUVE > BELGIUM > Tel. +32-10-47 33 03 > Fax +32-10-47 47 22 > E_mail: berger@astr.ucl.ac.be > http://www.astr.ucl.ac.be > ************************************************************************* Professor R.W. Battarbee Environmental Change Research Centre University College London 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP, UK. Tel. +44 020 7679 7582, Fax +44 020 7679 7565 http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/ecrc/Welcome.html