cc: "Keith Briffa" , "Phil Jones" date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:47:02 -0600 from: ssolomon@frii.com to: "Tim Osborn" Dear Tim, Keith, and Phil Thanks for your message. I am appending the IPCC principles and procedures. As far as I know, these are the only source for any official IPCC position on related matters (see section 4.1 of the procedures for some relevant information). What I provided to you in the message below sent previously can only be interpreted as a personal opinion and not an 'official' statement, and that is why I stated that how one wished to respond is up to that person. I would be happy to discuss this further. Please call me this morning at 1-303-497-4401. best regards Susan At 12:10 PM +0100 6/12/09, Tim Osborn wrote: Dear Susan, you may remember that about a year ago we had a Freedom of Information request from David Holland for all correspondence and emails to/from Keith Briffa and me in connection with drafting the IPCC AR4, listing many people involved. Phil was also involved because Holland asked for internal CRU/UEA documents too. UEA rejected this request on a number of grounds, including (i) individuals expected confidentiality and (ii) that our future relationship with the IPCC might be adversely affected if these materials were released. The latter view was based in part on your email (copied below) indicating that releasing further material was not appropriate. Holland has appealed to the UK body that deals with these things, and UEA must explain its reasons for rejecting the original request. I've been asked this: "We proceeded on the basis that Susan Solomon represented the 'official' view of the IPCC as an international organisation and that her statements represented those of the IPCC. Could you confirm Susan's position vis a vis the IPCC and if she does not 'represent' the IPCC, who would, or would be in a position to state their position on the confidentiality of information passing between IPCC participants that is at question in this case?" Now I realise that you aren't co-chair WG1 anymore, so I have two questions: (i) during the time when you were co-chair WG1, is it fair to say that your position did allow you to represent the IPCC view (or just the IPCC WG1 view)? (ii) can you suggest who we should contact who can currently represent the IPCC view on this matter? We really need someone who is fully aware of the issues surrounding this and appreciates the context of this request! We're very firmly of the belief that there are important principles to uphold here, related to our (and all our co-authors') freedom to have frank and open exchange of views while drafting these important reports. I notice that Holland states on McIntrye's blog: <http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6040#comment-342457> comment #46 "The point is not AR4 but to get precedence so as to get into AR5 information as soon as it is held." If he wins his appeal and we release the AR4-related correspondence, his opinion seems to be that this precedence will open up access to AR5 correspondence "as soon as it is held". All UK-based authors would then expect to receive regular requests for their AR5 correspondence *during* the drafting process. This would, in my opinion, adversely affect the relationship between UEA (and all UK universities/public institutions such as Met Office) and the IPCC -- it would be very supportive if someone who currently represents IPCC (or at least IPCC WG1) could indicate that this is also the view/position of the IPCC. Sorry for the lengthy email, and thanks in advance for any help you can give. Best regards Tim At 15:44 09/05/2008, you wrote: Dear Colleagues, I am attaching below the message I sent to John Mitchell and the other REs, with regard to a query seeking information on data as well as discussions about comments, in case it is helpful to those of you who may not have yet seen it. The same considerations apply to the chapters as to the comment files. The final chapters and comment files have all been made publicly available, and the web pages are the appropriate place for those seeking to understand what was done and the reasons why. Distribution of interim materials, or other forms of elaboration are not appropriate. best regards, Susan -------------------- John I feel that the most appropriate response will be from you, since you have been queried. I will offer the following points that may be useful to you or others in replying to the queries that you or other REs may have received but of course it is up to you how you wish to respond. The IPCC process assesses the published scientific and technical literature or, in some cases 'gray literature', based on the judgment of the authors. In general gray literature is used very seldom in WG1 although such material as industry technical reports are used more frequently in WG3. Unpublished draft papers or technical reports referenced in the chapters are made available to reviewers for the purposes of the review, not the underlying datasets used. IPCC does not have the mandate nor resources to operate as a clearing house for the massive amounts of data used in the underlying papers referenced. The governance of conduct of research, and the governance and requirements of the scientific literature are not IPCC's role. The review editors do not determine the content of the chapters. The authors are responsible for the content of their chapters and responding to comments, not REs. Further explanations, elaboration, or re-interpretations of the comments or the author responses, would not be appropriate. All of the comments, and all of the authors' responses, have been made available. These are the proper source for anyone seeking to understand what comments were made and how the authors dealt with them, and it would be inappropriate to provide more information beyond the reference to the web pages where this can be found. best regards, Susan Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\IPCCPrinciples.pdf" Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\IPCCProcedures.pdf"