date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:16:46 +0100 from: "Mcgarvie Michael Mr \(ACAD\)" subject: RE: Proposed alternative response to Holland letter [FOI-08-23] to: "Briffa Keith Prof \(ENV\)" Keith, I spoke with Dave earlier and he made some really useful points that I asked him to put in an email to everyone - he was hoping to get around to that today sometime. The crux was that if we are saying no to the request on the grounds of confidentiality, are there issues in the longer draft response that might work against that approach response? I am sure that Dave will put it more eloquently than I have - hopefully his email will arrive in the near future. Regards Michael Michael McGarvie Senior Faculty Manager Faculty of Science Room 0.22C University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ tel: 01603 593229 fax: 01603 593045 m.mcgarvie@uea.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Keith Briffa [mailto:k.briffa@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 13 May 2008 17:12 To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB); Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD); Osborn Timothy Dr (ENV); Jones Philip Prof (ENV) Subject: RE: Proposed alternative response to Holland letter [FOI-08-23] Could just prompt again for a response from Phil and David in particular , for an opinion on which response I should send to Holland - of the two alternatives I showed you. Thanks Keith At 15:10 12/05/2008, Keith Briffa wrote: >Thanks Dave >I think your request is answered in the attachment Tim just sent > >Keith > >At 14:56 12/05/2008, Palmer Dave Mr (LIB) wrote: >>Keith, >>I have emailed the Met Office in regards the material released by them. >>They won't accept direct phone calls so this is the best I can do at the >>moment; I will report on their response asap. >> >>On a related matter, I will need contact details for the individuals >>contacted in regards their attitude towards the correspondence referred >>to in the request. This will go to the issue of 'confidentiality' as >>used in the s.41 FOIA exemption for material whose release 'would >>constitute a breach of confidence actionable by that or any other >>person' >> >>I should note that this exemption only applies to information obtained >>by UEA from other persons; it does not extend to information generated >>within UEA. >> >>Cheers, Dave >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Keith Briffa [mailto:k.briffa@uea.ac.uk] >> >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:23 PM >> >To: Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD); Palmer Dave Mr (LIB); Osborn >> >Timothy Dr (ENV); Jones Philip Prof (ENV) >> >Subject: Proposed alternative response to Holland letter >> > >> >Sorry people correct versions now attached - please delete previous >> >message attachments >> > >> >Dear Michael, David,Tim, and Phil >> > >> >attached , as promised , are the original letter from David Holland >> >to myself, along with two alternative responses. I am waiting >> >comments from Phil , but both myself and Tim lean towards showing >> >some degree of apparent cooperation by sending the longer ,detailed >> >response. Tim is forwarding the combined responses from our >> >collaborators/co-authors regarding our earlier message asking their >> >opinion were we to send copies of their correspondence with regard to >> >Holland's FOIA request. You will see that they are universally >> >opposed. Please also see the message from Susan Solomon (via Tim), >> >copying her response to John Mitchell's message related to Holland's >> >earlier request to him. The FOIA request is , I know, separate from >> >the issue of the specific list of questions from Holland of me, but >> >we must also consider whether my decision to send one or other of the >> >alternative responses will influence our decision of how to respond >> >to the FOI request. My interpretation of Susan's message (though >> >originally drafted in response to John Mitchell - a review editor >> >rather than a lead author of the IPCC) is that she would consider the >> >shorter response appropriate. If I sent this it would certainly not >> >be considered sufficient to negate the FOIA request. I would value >> >your opinion as to the best course of action to take ,i.e. which >> >letter - or indeed neither - from here on. >> >regards >> >Keith >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Professor Keith Briffa, >> >Climatic Research Unit >> >University of East Anglia >> >Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. >> > >> >Phone: +44-1603-593909 >> >Fax: +44-1603-507784 >> > >> >http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ >> > > >-- >Professor Keith Briffa, >Climatic Research Unit >University of East Anglia >Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. > >Phone: +44-1603-593909 >Fax: +44-1603-507784 > >http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/