date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:31:08 -0700 from: Tom Wigley subject: HHL to: Phil Jones , Keith Briffa Dear Both, Here is something I sent to Keller.... ****************************** Chick, Off the record, as someone who worked with Hubert for many years and who took over from him as Director of the Climatic Research Unit, I can tell you that Hubert's use of historical evidence was seriously flawed (check out Bell and Ogilvie in a very early issue of Climatic Change -- Astrid Ogilvie is my wife), and his use of proxy data was equally uncritical (you could ask Keith Briffa for some of the gory details). Sad, but true. There are a few papers that document some of Hubert's errors, but they are in obscure places because we didn't want to upset him. Unfortunately, Landscheidt is of the same ilk. Cheers, Tom. *************************** Tom.