date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:18:38 +0100 from: Olive Heffernan subject: Re: Piece for CRU web site to: "P.Jones@uea.ac.uk" Hi Phil, Ok, thanks for clarifying that. When will the url to the agreements go online? Best Olive On 09/08/2009, P.Jones@uea.ac.uk wrote: > Olive, > I did send some of the data to a person working > with Peter Webster at Georgia Tech. The email wasn't to > PW, but he was in the CC list. I don't know how > McIntyre found out, but I thought this was a personal > email. This was one of the first times I'd sent > some data to a fellow scientist who wasn't at the > Hadley Centre. As I said I have taken pity on African > and Asian PhD students who wanted some temperature and precipitation > data for their country. The email has only gotten me grief, > so this is another reason for being much less helpful to > people emailing CRU. This goes against my nature, but > I've been driven to it. You'd better not say this, otherwise > McIntyre will request the emails where to prove I've been > unhelpful! > > I should have just said to the GA person - use GHCN, like I do to > everyone else. > > I also don't see why I should help people, I don't want to work > with and who spend most of their time critisising me. > > Years ago I did send much paleo data to McIntyre but have also > had nothing but criticism on his blog ever since. As I said, > this criticism on blog sites is not the way to do science. > If they want to engage, they have to converse in civil tones, > and if people don't want to work with them, they have to respect > that and live with it. > > Cheers > Phil > > > Hi Phil, > > > > Thanks so much for that. I have one other question: McIntyre claims > > that you sent data to Peter Webstre at Georgia Tech, but that you > > would not supply him with the same data. Is that true, and if so, what > > was the reasoning? > > > > Best, > > Olive > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2009, Phil Jones wrote: > >> Here it is. There will be a link to the agreements - which are > >> attached. > >> Files won't go up with these names. You should recognize one of these > >> - the data agreement between the Met Office and NERC. > >> > >> Met Services appear want to be able to sell data commercially. > >> As I said some has more value than other types of data. Most > >> put in clauses separating academic from commercial use. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Phil > >> > >> > >> Prof. Phil Jones > >> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 > >> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 > >> University of East Anglia > >> Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk > >> NR4 7TJ > >> UK > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > > > > >