date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:09:35 0100 from: Joseph Alcamo subject: Re: Climate Statement Version 4 to: Mike Hulme Mike, Thanks for your positive comments. If it's OK with you, I would like to take your comments into account in the next version of the statement (Version 5). In the meantime, I would like to take you up on your offer that you would distribute the current version (Version 4) for comment around the UK. The idea that Rob Swart and I have is to keep the circle fairly small right now so that we can have a good statement agreed upon by some prominent people before we send it out for signing. Therefore we would like to send the Statement to no more than about 5 or 10 rather prominent people in the climate scene in our respective countries. For example, I will be discussing it in the next few days with Schellnhuber, Grassl, Crutzen and others here in Germany. Who do you propose to send it to in the UK? (By the way, I already received comments back from S. Subak.) Another issue is what you use as a cover letter for the Statement. I think it is important either to send the cover letter you now have (signed by me) or a modified one (signed either by you alone or both of us) because it spells out the aims and intended audience of the Statement. What do you think? With best wishes, Joe Alcamo ------------R Diane diane@crseo.ucsb.edu Geography, Univ of California, Santa Barbara, USA SCIALDONE John N scialdon@killians.gsfc.nasa.gov Hughes-STX Corp, NASA EOS Data Information System, USAFrom ???@??? Tue Jul 01 10:11:21 1997 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk by cpca2.uea.ac.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/29Jun95-0305PM) id AA13175; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:03:54 +0100 Received: from hrz-sun1 (actually host hrz-sun1.hrz.uni-kassel.de) by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:03:36 +0100 Received: from usf.uni-kassel.de by hrz-sun1 (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id LAA03880; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:03:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199707010903.LAA03880@hrz-sun1> Received: from USF1/SpoolDir by usf.uni-kassel.de (Mercury 1.31); 1 Jul 97 11:03:31 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by USF1 (Mercury 1.31); 1 Jul 97 11:03:03 +0100 From: Joseph Alcamo To: Mike Hulme Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:02:55 0100 Subject: Re: Climate Statement Version 4 Reply-To: alcamo@usf.uni-kassel.de Return-Receipt-To: alcamo@usf.uni-kassel.de Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970630205429.006fba58@pop.uea.ac.uk> References: <199706261010.MAA00971@hrz-sun1> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Status: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:54:29 +0100 To: alcamo@usf.uni-kassel.de From: Mike Hulme Subject: Re: Climate Statement Version 4 Joe, I can approach a few people over here if you wish, using your cover letter with a couple of amendments and signed by me and you. That would be great! One question to be clear about is how is it going to appear in public - as an independent statement or under the umbrella of some organisation? This is the current idea: 1. You, Rob Swart and I should first consult with a manageable-number of people about the content of the Statement. The three of us would act as "Coordinators" of the Statement. 2. After this fairly small group agrees on the content of the Statement we should try and convince ten or so "prominent" scientists from different parts of Europe to be official signers. The names of these prominent people would appear on the same page as the Statement. Rob and I have not discussed who these ten people should be. Some could be from the original circle that we consult in step 1. 3. After "The Ten" have signed on, we need an enthusiastic organization to carry out the time-consuming task of collecting as many signatures of scientists in Europe as possible, so that we can say "1,865 European scientists, including (the prominent ten) have signed a Statement that says .. and so forth". I don't think that either you or Rob or I have the time to do this. For the American statement this job was done by an organization called "Redefining Progress". Perhaps for us it could be WWF. What do you think. 4. The last step would be to hold a press conference(s) to announce the Statement. For this we would try and get as many of "The Ten" as possible to attend. My idea would be to aim for the AGBM meeting in October, when the debate should be pretty hot, and media interest in anticipation of Kyoto should be increasing. People here I would think of are: Martin Parry Kerry Turner Melvyn Cannell Mick Kelly Michael Grubb David Carson What about John Mitchell? I would also limit number to about five at this point. e.g. In the coming two weeks I will speak to Schellnhuber, Jill Jaeger, Grassl, and maybe two others about the Statement. Best regards, Joe Alcamo ---------------------------------------------------- Prof. Dr. Joseph Alcamo Center for Environmental Systems Research University of Kassel Kurt Wolters Strasse 3 D-34109 Kassel Germany Phone: +49 561 804 3898 Fax: +49 561 804 3176