From: Phil Jones To: "Michael E. Mann" Subject: Re: have you seen this? Date: Wed Mar 31 09:09:04 2004 Mike, Yes, but not had a chance to read it yet. Too much else going on. Ed has a paper reworking Esper et al. as you'll know. If you're going to Tucson, I suggest you talk to Keith about it then - don't email him as he's too busy preparing to go and marking essays. Jan is in one of our EU projects. Seems that Keith thinks Jan is reinventing a lot of Keith's work, renamed the RCS method and much more. Jan doesn't always take in what is in the literature even though he purports to read it. He's now looking at homogenization techniques for temperature to check the Siberian temperature data. We keep telling him the decline is also in N. Europe, N. America (where we use all the recently homogenized Canadian data). The decline may be slightly larger in Siberia, but it is elsewhere as well. Also Siberia is one of the worst places to look at homogeneity, as the stations aren't that close together (as they are in Fennoscandia and most of Canada) and also the temperature varies an awful lot from year to year. Recently rejected two papers (one for JGR and for GRL) from people saying CRU has it wrong over Siberia. Went to town in both reviews, hopefully successfully. If either appears I will be very surprised, but you never know with GRL. Cheers Phil Cheers Phil At 11:20 30/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: Phil, Have you seen this piece of crap by Esper? The JGR paper, which Scott is supposed to be finalizing, demonstrates quite convincingly that the greater amplitude of Esper et al is due to spatial and seasonal sampling, mike ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- References 1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml