date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:10:13 -0000 from: "R Warren" subject: RE: Report - Research on Stabilisation - 17 Jan 2003 to: "'Mike Hulme'" Dear Mike, Many thanks for this. Reading the report I see how very linked the whole meeting was to the scientific needs of DEFRA and it has a great bearing on how I might design the CIAS. The main message of course, is that there is a great interest on DEFRA's part in following up the UNFCC article 2 aim of studying stabilisation targets. Various other interesting points are the poss. definition of dangerous CC with respect to the carbon cycle; and the precise recommendations of which stabilisation scenarios should be looked in to. I have also never seen Nigel Arnell present the results of the Fast Track project and that would have been really useful for me since it seems t be state of the art. We had a theme 1 meeting a couple of weeks later and I found that I wasn't in a good position to join in discussions about key decisions on modelling plans in an informed way - as a result of my being so in the dark. I really feel strongly that I should have been there and would have very much liked to come, but I was not told it was happening till the day before - at the theme 1 meeting in Southampton - (even though I'd said to one or two people that I wanted to go to the next meeting with DEFRA!). I would have expressed a wish to come, had I not (by that time) arranged another much less important meeting for the same day. I also didn't know, whether the meeting was the kind of meeting that one can invite oneself to - e.g. might have been a private meeting of an expert panel of which I wasn't a member, or may be there were already too many people from Tyndall there, etc, etc. Jonathan and I have already talked about this (and he told me about what happened at the meeting regarding economic modelling) and agreed that I need to develop a relationship with DEFRA and get involved in some (but not all) of the meetings we have with DEFRA. That is, we've agreed that I need to be at the really key stakeholder meetings like this one, and to meet occasionally with key (potential!) stakeholders like DEFRA. i.e. that in order to make good decisions about the flagship project, I need to have contact and visibility with key stakeholders. If there are other key meetings very much linked to the scientific aims of the integrated modelling like this one, I would like to come, particularly if they are with DEFRA. However, this doesn't mean I want to go to every meeting - I don't have time - it is just the really key ones like this. I've also noticed that DW has written an outline proposal - I guess that Tyndall is contributing to this - and again its content must have a lot of bearing on the future design of CIAS, since your section 6 shows that it discusses integrated assessment - but I didn't know about this proposal until I received your e-mail today - are we contributing to it and if so who is writing it? Rachel Dr. Rachel Warren Senior Research Fellow Tyndall Centre (HQ) School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ Tel: 01603 593912 Fax: 01603 593901 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hulme [mailto:m.hulme@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 08 February 2003 12:14 To: r.warren@uea.ac.uk; Kanako Tanaka; n.adger@uea.ac.uk; simon.shackley@umist.ac.uk Subject: Fwd: Report - Research on Stabilisation - 17 Jan 2003 Attached are some meeting notes from DEFRA concerning the meeting David Warrilow convened on 17th Jan. concerning research into stabilisation levels and IPCC/UNFCCC agenda's. Mike >From: "Noguer, Maria (GA)" >To: "'parryml@aol.com'" , "'n.w.arnell@soton.ac.uk'" > , "'r.nicholls@mdx.ac.uk'" > , "'John.furlong@dti.gsi.gov.uk'" > , "'T-Foy@dfid.gov.uk'" > , > "Parker, Miles (SD)" , > "Rose, Michael (LMID)" , > "Tauhid, Sayeeda (EPE)" , > "Pittini, Michele (EPE)" , > "Hendry, Sarah (GA)" , > "Warrilow, David (GA)" , > "Johnson, Cathy (GA)" , > "Noguer, Maria (GA)" , > "Wilkins, Diana (GA)" , > "Penman, Jim (GA)" , > "'bacallander.msg.mod@gtnet.gov.uk'" > , > "'h.j.schellnhuber@uea.ac.uk'" , > "'m.hulme@uea.ac.uk'" , > "'alex.haxeltine@uea.ac.uk'" > , "'J.kohler@uea.ac.uk'" > , > "'sraper@awi-bremerhaven.de'" , > "'p.jones@uea.ac.uk'" , "'d.viner@uea.ac.uk'" > , "'geoff.jenkins@metoffice.com'" > , "'Peter.cox@metoffice.com'" > , "'mike.Harrison@metoffice.com'" > , "'paul.vanderlinden@metoffice.com'" > , "'Kathy.maskell@metoffice.com'" > , "'mgrc@ceh.ac.uk'" , > "'cgrapley@bas.ac.uk'" , "'hqpo@nerc.ac.uk'" > , "'a.j.thorpe@reading.ac.uk'" > , "'ppn@nerc.ac.uk'" , > "'ben.sykes@bbsrc.ac.uk'" , > "'adrian.alsop@esrc.ac.uk'" , > "'peter.bates@epsrc.ac.uk'" , > "'b.j.hoskins@reading.ac.uk'" , > "'chris.west@ukcip.org.uk'" , > "'richenda.connell@ukcip.org.uk'" , > "'tom.downing@sei.se'" , "'j.skea@psi.org.uk'" > , "'anver.ghazi@cec.eu.int'" > , > "'John.f.mitchell@metoffice.com'" , > "'Jhg@ceh.ac.uk'" , "'f.berkhout@Sussex.ac.uk'" > , "'s.r.sorrel@sussex.ac.uk'" > , "'dennis.anderson@ic.ac.uk'" > , "'doug.d.mckay@si.shell.com'" > , "'robert.gross@ic.ac.uk'" > , "'terry.barker@econ.cam.ac.uk'" > , "'jgs@soc.soton.ac.uk'" > , "Bobb, Letitia (GA)" > >Subject: Report - Research on Stabilisation - 17 Jan 2003 >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:45:08 -0000 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) > >Dear colleagues, > >Please find attached the draft report of the meeting that took place 17 Jan >32003 on Further Research on Stabilisation. > >Let me take this opportunities to thank all the participants for a very >fruitful discussion and especially the speakers for introducing the >different Agenda items. > >I would like to ask you to spend a few minutes reading this draft report and >to send me any comments that you may have. Also I would like to know if you >are happy for the Report to be sent to others in Europe and elsewhere (WCRP, >IGPP). Please send me your comments no later than 7 February. > >The presentations from the speakers will be sent to you in a separate email. > >Regards, > >Maria Noguer > > > > <> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >---------- >Dr Maria Noguer >Global Atmosphere Division >Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs >3/B4 Ashdown House >123 Victoria Street >London SW1E 6DE >Telephone: +44 (0)207 944 5437; GTN: 3533 5437 >Email: maria.noguer@defra.gsi.gov.uk >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >----------- > >