cc: Gavin Schmidt date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:57:09 -0500 from: Michael Mann subject: Re: Not again! to: Phil Jones thanks Phil, will let you know what we decide to do w/ this. I think it might just get more traction than the previous similar efforts, and if so will need a response. refuting the specifics is important, but many of these might be lost on journalists and politico types, so we'll need to look at the big picture too in any post we do. will keep you in the loop. looking forward to seeing you in Morea. I get in early morning on the 31st but will be extremely jet lagged! talk to you later, mike Phil Jones wrote: > > Mike, > The foreword and introduction is a very biased read. > They again make the statement that the text of the report > was changed to follow the SPM. Very little was changed, > but what is the point of the plenary passing the SPM otherwise > if the text can't be changed. > > If you want to do anything you could see what RC readers > make of Fig 20 and its caption! > > There is loads of buoy data now and ship-based SST. > The buoys are warmer - slightly. > > Who hasn't even bothered to look at some data ! > > The mixed layer has much the same SST - hence the name! > > If only RSS could definitively show that the UAH is wrong. > > See you Moorea. > > Cheers > Phil > > > At 13:57 04/03/2008, Michael Mann wrote: >> thanks Phil--yes, we've seen this. having some discussion about how >> and if to deal w/ it at all. to some extent, these guys are pissing >> into the wind at this point. >> >> looking forward to the revised draft, no rush. I'll be travelling >> next two weeks (doing some work w/ Hugues Goosse in Belgium), and >> will have somewhat intermittent/limited internet. >> >> talk to you later, >> >> mike >> >> Phil Jones wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Mike, >>> Assume you've seen this. Probably no point even bothering to >>> discuss this on RC. Same old recycled rubbish.. >>> >>> Nice to see the AD 536 paper highlighted - seems that most >>> seem to refer to Lovelock, though... There also seemed a couple of >>> rants from someone who thought they were commenting on Climate Audit! >>> >>> Thanks for all the comments on Wengen. You'll be getting the >>> last but one version >>> later this week hopefully, but early next week if we can't make it. >>> Nearly there. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Prof. Phil Jones >>> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 >>> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 >>> University of East Anglia >>> Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk >>> NR4 7TJ >>> UK >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael E. Mann >> Associate Professor >> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) >> >> Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 >> 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 >> The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu >> University Park, PA 16802-5013 >> >> http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm >> > > Prof. Phil Jones > Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 > School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 > University of East Anglia > Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk > NR4 7TJ > UK > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm