cc: "Keith R. Briffa" , , date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:52:27 -0300 from: "Ricardo Villalba" subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure to: "Jonathan Overpeck" Hi Keith, Ed, Peck, Eystein Regarding Peck's suggestions, 1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact. Rio de Janeiro, starting in 1851, is the longest, homogeneous temperature record from the Southern Hemisphere. In New Zealand and Australia, temperature records start at the same time. We do not have any long record for the 18th century, even the first half of the 19th century. The hemispheric record from the Southern Hemisphere will be discussed in Chapter 2 and we do not have any additional information to provide. 2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed) Definitely!! I do not have the records here in Mendoza. Keith, do you have access to these data? As soon as I receive the borehole records I will incorporate them in the figures. I would appreciate receiving the key references to properly cite the records. 3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty please...) to draft the final figure so that it matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is this ok, and do you have the data to do the job. If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send upon request? At the time the figure is ready, I will send all the data to Keith and Tim to draft the final figure, and the final text to incorporate in the FOD. Cheers, Ricardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Overpeck" To: "Ricardo Villalba" Cc: "Keith Briffa" ; ; "Eystein Jansen" Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure Hi SH gang - Thanks for keeping things moving Ricardo. Eystein and I just discussed this fig on the phone and would like to suggest the following: 1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact. 2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed) 3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty please...) to draft the final figure so that it matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is this ok, and do you have the data to do the job. If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send upon request? Many thanks, Peck and Eystein >Dear Keith and Ed, > >Please, find attached the new version of the SH figure for the IPCC. I have >now included the New Zealand record. All the records have been scaled to 4 >°C amplitude. Variability in the Tas record is reduced compared to New >Zealand and Patagonian records. The reference lines is the mean used for the >calibration period in each record, 15 C for New Zealand, 14.95 C for >Tasmania and 0 C for the Patagonian records (they show departures). Please, >let me know if you want to introduce some changes in the figure. The >opposite phase in the Patagonia-New Zealand records is so clear before 1850, >which is consistent with our previous TPI. For instance, in the instrumental >record the 1971 and 1976 are the coolest summer in northern Patagonian >during the past 70 years, but the warmest in New Zealand reconstruction!! >This out of phase relationship between regions in the Southern Hemisphere >points out to the difficulty of using few records to get a hemispheric >average. Cheers, > >Ricardo > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Overpeck" >To: "edwardcook" >Cc: "Keith Briffa" <>; "Ricardo Villalba" ; >"Eystein Jansen" <> >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:09 PM >Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure > > >Thanks Ed - Ricardo, can you get the data from Henry? What do you think, >Keith? >Best, Peck > >>Given the nature of the SH and what Ricardo put >>together, I would keep the Australian and South >>Aftrican borehole records separate. Henry >>Pollack can provide them, I am sure. He gave an >>excellent talk at a meeting in Canberra that I >>recently participated in. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Ed >> >>P.S. Ricardo, here is the Oroko temperature reconstruction. >> >>JANUARY-MARCH TEMPERATURES RECONSTRUCTED FROM >>OROKO SWAMP, NEW ZEALAND SILVER PINE TREE RINGS >>BE ADVISED THAT THE DATA AFTER 1958 ARE INSTRUMENTAL >>TEMPERATURES >> YEAR TEMP °C >> 900 13.751 >> 901 14.461 >> 902 13.236 >> 903 13.331 >> 904 13.483 >> 905 13.632 >> 906 12.959 >> 907 13.628 >> 908 13.372 >> 909 12.868 >> 910 13.244 >> 911 13.793 >> 912 14.048 >> 913 14.444 >> 914 13.095 >> 915 14.036 >> 916 13.215 >> 917 13.698 >> 918 13.570 >> 919 13.665 >> 920 13.871 >> 921 13.966 >> 922 14.762 >> 923 14.325 >> 924 14.077 >> 925 14.713 >> 926 14.081 >> 927 14.218 >> 928 13.793 >> 929 14.151 >> 930 14.985 >> 931 13.599 >> 932 14.663 >> 933 14.110 >> 934 14.968 >> 935 14.391 >> 936 15.484 >> 937 15.554 >> 938 14.977 >> 939 15.303 >> 940 15.179 >> 941 15.591 >> 942 14.737 >> 943 14.007 >> 944 14.865 >> 945 14.449 >> 946 14.350 >> 947 15.096 >> 948 15.257 >> 949 15.789 >> 950 15.303 >> 951 15.513 >> 952 16.111 >> 953 15.723 >> 954 15.459 >> 955 14.015 >> 956 13.083 >> 957 13.850 >> 958 14.069 >> 959 13.772 >> 960 14.873 >> 961 14.692 >> 962 14.923 >> 963 14.527 >> 964 15.034 >> 965 14.688 >> 966 14.486 >> 967 14.444 >> 968 14.436 >> 969 13.776 >> 970 13.809 >> 971 14.391 >> 972 13.487 >> 973 13.995 >> 974 14.061 >> 975 14.321 >> 976 14.882 >> 977 14.226 >> 978 14.977 >> 979 15.447 >> 980 14.424 >> 981 14.923 >> 982 14.180 >> 983 15.484 >> 984 13.487 >> 985 14.168 >> 986 14.176 > > 987 15.699 >> 988 15.187 >> 989 16.305 >> 990 14.845 >> 991 14.647 >> 992 15.765 >> 993 14.754 >> 994 14.271 >> 995 13.623 >> 996 14.300 >> 997 13.937 >> 998 14.040 >> 999 14.011 >> 1000 12.976 >> 1001 13.904 >> 1002 13.500 >> 1003 13.586 >> 1004 14.090 >> 1005 13.809 >> 1006 13.413 >> 1007 13.318 >> 1008 13.892 >> 1009 14.151 >> 1010 14.391 >> 1011 13.793 >> 1012 14.626 >> 1013 13.755 >> 1014 13.838 >> 1015 13.017 > > 1016 13.083 >> 1017 13.549 >> 1018 13.471 >> 1019 13.087 >> 1020 13.458 >> 1021 13.203 >> 1022 14.090 >> 1023 13.574 >> 1024 13.755 >> 1025 13.826 >> 1026 13.137 >> 1027 13.194 >> 1028 14.036 >> 1029 13.091 >> 1030 13.768 >> 1031 13.813 >> 1032 13.846 >> 1033 13.871 >> 1034 14.255 >> 1035 14.370 >> 1036 13.805 >> 1037 14.576 >> 1038 13.504 >> 1039 13.867 >> 1040 14.927 >> 1041 14.420 >> 1042 15.661 >> 1043 15.484 >> 1044 15.595 >> 1045 14.741 >> 1046 13.644 >> 1047 14.271 >> 1048 14.288 >> 1049 13.661 >> 1050 13.665 >> 1051 13.298 >> 1052 14.003 >> 1053 13.826 >> 1054 13.788 >> 1055 13.768 >> 1056 12.976 >> 1057 13.397 >> 1058 13.529 >> 1059 13.549 >> 1060 13.846 >> 1061 14.032 >> 1062 14.820 >> 1063 13.962 >> 1064 14.279 >> 1065 14.151 >> 1066 14.358 >> 1067 14.131 >> 1068 13.652 >> 1069 13.941 >> 1070 14.007 >> 1071 14.403 >> 1072 13.764 >> 1073 13.982 >> 1074 13.846 >> 1075 13.830 >> 1076 13.450 >> 1077 13.632 >> 1078 13.265 >> 1079 13.331 >> 1080 14.267 >> 1081 13.644 >> 1082 13.549 >> 1083 13.557 >> 1084 13.549 >> 1085 14.725 >> 1086 13.479 >> 1087 12.848 >> 1088 12.559 >> 1089 12.926 >> 1090 13.793 >> 1091 14.387 >> 1092 14.531 >> 1093 14.114 >> 1094 14.754 >> 1095 14.688 >> 1096 14.845 >> 1097 14.729 >> 1098 15.059 >> 1099 15.059 >> 1100 15.055 >> 1101 16.057 >> 1102 15.208 >> 1103 15.492 >> 1104 14.519 >> 1105 14.741 >> 1106 14.151 >> 1107 15.005 >> 1108 13.640 >> 1109 13.652 >> 1110 13.566 >> 1111 13.978 >> 1112 14.424 >> 1113 14.180 >> 1114 14.931 >> 1115 14.601 >> 1116 14.403 >> 1117 14.391 >> 1118 14.981 >> 1119 15.125 >> 1120 13.817 >> 1121 12.897 >> 1122 13.863 >> 1123 14.271 >> 1124 14.857 >> 1125 14.882 >> 1126 14.762 >> 1127 14.548 >> 1128 14.403 >> 1129 14.667 >> 1130 14.572 >> 1131 14.057 >> 1132 14.556 >> 1133 15.018 >> 1134 13.892 >> 1135 13.995 >> 1136 13.982 >> 1137 14.853 >> 1138 14.779 >> 1139 15.129 >> 1140 15.117 >> 1141 14.849 >> 1142 15.228 >> 1143 15.216 >> 1144 15.030 >> 1145 14.428 >> 1146 15.063 >> 1147 15.216 >> 1148 15.043 >> 1149 15.034 >> 1150 14.370 >> 1151 15.096 >> 1152 15.410 >> 1153 15.719 >> 1154 16.577 >> 1155 15.769 >> 1156 15.364 >> 1157 15.855 >> 1158 15.422 >> 1159 14.515 >> 1160 15.810 >> 1161 15.628 >> 1162 15.402 >> 1163 15.092 >> 1164 15.298 >> 1165 14.865 >> 1166 14.882 >> 1167 15.274 >> 1168 14.605 >> 1169 14.746 >> 1170 15.472 >> 1171 15.509 >> 1172 15.018 >> 1173 15.369 >> 1174 15.084 >> 1175 15.855 >> 1176 14.795 >> 1177 15.571 >> 1178 14.255 >> 1179 14.510 >> 1180 14.865 >> 1181 14.036 >> 1182 14.688 >> 1183 14.713 >> 1184 14.519 >> 1185 14.255 >> 1186 15.204 >> 1187 14.461 >> 1188 15.476 >> 1189 14.882 >> 1190 15.005 >> 1191 14.453 >> 1192 14.729 >> 1193 15.265 >> 1194 14.444 >> 1195 14.696 >> 1196 15.793 >> 1197 14.581 >> 1198 15.014 >> 1199 14.539 >> 1200 14.044 >> 1201 14.733 >> 1202 14.853 >> 1203 15.298 >> 1204 13.772 >> 1205 13.991 >> 1206 14.651 >> 1207 14.836 >> 1208 14.440 >> 1209 15.162 >> 1210 14.766 >> 1211 15.010 >> 1212 15.356 >> 1213 14.787 >> 1214 15.645 >> 1215 15.435 >> 1216 15.043 >> 1217 15.063 >> 1218 14.151 >> 1219 15.397 >> 1220 15.154 >> 1221 15.892 >> 1222 15.488 >> 1223 15.938 >> 1224 15.525 >> 1225 15.591 >> 1226 14.589 >> 1227 15.496 >> 1228 15.963 >> 1229 14.502 >> 1230 14.457 >> 1231 15.468 >> 1232 14.985 >> 1233 15.282 >> 1234 14.989 >> 1235 15.237 >> 1236 15.711 >> 1237 15.888 >> 1238 14.259 >> 1239 14.560 >> 1240 15.711 >> 1241 15.195 >> 1242 15.484 >> 1243 15.166 > > 1244 16.020 >> 1245 16.454 >> 1246 15.480 >> 1247 15.492 >> 1248 16.528 >> 1249 15.150 >> 1250 14.436 >> 1251 14.878 >> 1252 15.723 >> 1253 15.043 >> 1254 15.121 >> 1255 14.845 >> 1256 14.807 >> 1257 14.482 >> 1258 14.585 >> 1259 15.307 >> 1260 15.100 >> 1261 14.354 >> 1262 13.995 >> 1263 14.106 >> 1264 14.403 >> 1265 14.754 >> 1266 14.581 >> 1267 14.799 >> 1268 14.378 >> 1269 14.671 >> 1270 14.193 >> 1271 14.387 >> 1272 14.453 > > 1273 14.510 >> 1274 15.187 >> 1275 15.393 >> 1276 14.498 >> 1277 14.560 >> 1278 15.022 >> 1279 14.498 >> 1280 14.725 >> 1281 13.549 >> 1282 14.977 >> 1283 14.065 >> 1284 14.024 >> 1285 13.603 >> 1286 15.220 >> 1287 15.080 >> 1288 14.898 >> 1289 14.774 >> 1290 15.542 >> 1291 15.212 >> 1292 14.267 >> 1293 14.692 >> 1294 13.644 >> 1295 14.222 >> 1296 15.038 >> 1297 14.721 >> 1298 15.682 >> 1299 13.896 >> 1300 14.766 >> 1301 14.836 >> 1302 14.370 >> 1303 14.812 >> 1304 14.812 >> 1305 13.673 >> 1306 14.036 >> 1307 13.929 >> 1308 14.807 >> 1309 14.114 >> 1310 13.446 >> 1311 13.368 >> 1312 14.168 >> 1313 14.989 >> 1314 14.292 >> 1315 14.985 >> 1316 14.123 >> 1317 14.321 >> 1318 13.966 >> 1319 14.325 >> 1320 14.647 >> 1321 14.622 >> 1322 14.279 >> 1323 14.510 >> 1324 13.689 >> 1325 13.450 >> 1326 14.197 >> 1327 13.867 >> 1328 14.205 >> 1329 14.779 >> 1330 14.350 >> 1331 14.729 >> 1332 13.479 >> 1333 13.974 >> 1334 14.453 >> 1335 14.535 >> 1336 15.402 >> 1337 14.424 >> 1338 14.399 >> 1339 14.906 >> 1340 15.430 >> 1341 14.531 >> 1342 15.785 >> 1343 15.513 >> 1344 15.220 >> 1345 15.352 >> 1346 15.443 >> 1347 15.410 >> 1348 15.777 >> 1349 14.902 >> 1350 14.576 >> 1351 14.605 >> 1352 14.168 >> 1353 14.601 >> 1354 15.414 >> 1355 14.300 >> 1356 14.630 >> 1357 15.170 >> 1358 14.919 >> 1359 14.688 >> 1360 14.081 >> 1361 14.799 >> 1362 14.581 >> 1363 15.133 >> 1364 13.838 >> 1365 14.708 >> 1366 13.149 >> 1367 13.281 >> 1368 13.760 >> 1369 14.123 >> 1370 13.314 >> 1371 14.523 >> 1372 14.267 >> 1373 14.226 >> 1374 14.044 >> 1375 14.271 >> 1376 15.307 >> 1377 14.684 >> 1378 14.168 >> 1379 14.473 >> 1380 13.578 >> 1381 13.586 >> 1382 13.999 >> 1383 13.991 >> 1384 13.710 >> 1385 14.411 >> 1386 13.867 >> 1387 14.255 >> 1388 13.611 >> 1389 13.974 >> 1390 13.916 >> 1391 13.615 >> 1392 14.440 >> 1393 14.787 >> 1394 15.880 >> 1395 16.297 >> 1396 16.289 >> 1397 15.170 >> 1398 16.082 >> 1399 15.463 >> 1400 14.366 >> 1401 14.758 >> 1402 14.902 >> 1403 14.568 >> 1404 15.158 >> 1405 15.579 >> 1406 13.966 >> 1407 13.970 >> 1408 13.772 >> 1409 14.523 >> 1410 14.498 >> 1411 14.791 >> 1412 14.007 >> 1413 15.818 >> 1414 13.974 >> 1415 13.776 >> 1416 13.760 >> 1417 14.407 >> 1418 14.498 >> 1419 14.515 >> 1420 14.341 >> 1421 14.374 >> 1422 13.677 >> 1423 14.354 >> 1424 13.223 >> 1425 13.801 >> 1426 14.560 >> 1427 14.374 >> 1428 14.494 >> 1429 15.051 >> 1430 14.836 >> 1431 13.999 >> 1432 14.341 >> 1433 14.865 >> 1434 15.063 >> 1435 15.311 >> 1436 15.765 >> 1437 15.789 >> 1438 15.204 >> 1439 15.298 >> 1440 15.257 >> 1441 15.443 >> 1442 14.737 >> 1443 15.385 >> 1444 15.723 >> 1445 14.717 >> 1446 15.088 >> 1447 15.253 >> 1448 14.477 >> 1449 16.004 >> 1450 14.581 >> 1451 14.449 >> 1452 14.993 >> 1453 14.151 >> 1454 14.556 >> 1455 14.366 >> 1456 14.601 >> 1457 13.813 >> 1458 14.242 >> 1459 15.047 >> 1460 14.919 >> 1461 14.300 >> 1462 15.010 >> 1463 14.139 >> 1464 15.001 >> 1465 14.873 >> 1466 15.406 >> 1467 14.399 >> 1468 14.671 >> 1469 15.092 >> 1470 14.337 >> 1471 14.948 >> 1472 15.047 >> 1473 14.523 >> 1474 14.680 >> 1475 14.395 >> 1476 15.661 >> 1477 15.158 >> 1478 15.414 >> 1479 15.641 >> 1480 15.909 >> 1481 15.748 >> 1482 14.708 >> 1483 14.981 >> 1484 14.659 >> 1485 15.113 >> 1486 14.754 >> 1487 15.740 >> 1488 15.327 >> 1489 15.125 >> 1490 15.026 >> 1491 15.567 >> 1492 15.265 >> 1493 15.996 >> 1494 16.326 >> 1495 14.915 >> 1496 15.831 >> 1497 14.845 >> 1498 15.670 >> 1499 16.156 >> 1500 15.864 > > 1501 15.831 >> 1502 16.581 >> 1503 15.212 >> 1504 15.534 >> 1505 15.270 >> 1506 15.492 >> 1507 15.633 >> 1508 14.420 >> 1509 15.723 >> 1510 14.816 >> 1511 15.282 >> 1512 15.641 >> 1513 14.655 >> 1514 14.510 >> 1515 13.508 >> 1516 14.172 >> 1517 14.251 >> 1518 13.628 >> 1519 13.698 >> 1520 13.405 >> 1521 13.920 >> 1522 13.974 >> 1523 13.978 >> 1524 14.238 >> 1525 14.003 >> 1526 13.298 >> 1527 13.694 >> 1528 15.005 >> 1529 14.218 > > 1530 14.110 >> 1531 14.593 >> 1532 13.916 >> 1533 14.510 >> 1534 14.057 >> 1535 14.048 >> 1536 13.673 >> 1537 14.477 >> 1538 14.090 >> 1539 14.300 >> 1540 14.374 >> 1541 14.387 >> 1542 14.085 >> 1543 14.184 >> 1544 14.597 >> 1545 14.783 >> 1546 15.348 >> 1547 15.859 >> 1548 15.835 >> 1549 14.729 >> 1550 15.451 >> 1551 15.204 >> 1552 15.022 >> 1553 15.352 >> 1554 14.251 >> 1555 14.135 >> 1556 14.609 >> 1557 14.572 >> 1558 15.224 >> 1559 14.688 >> 1560 14.618 >> 1561 15.179 >> 1562 14.399 >> 1563 14.873 >> 1564 13.652 >> 1565 13.958 >> 1566 15.595 >> 1567 14.898 >> 1568 13.595 >> 1569 14.019 >> 1570 15.030 >> 1571 15.228 >> 1572 15.241 >> 1573 16.355 >> 1574 14.865 >> 1575 14.923 >> 1576 15.542 >> 1577 15.162 >> 1578 14.956 >> 1579 15.657 >> 1580 15.208 >> 1581 15.208 >> 1582 15.166 >> 1583 14.473 >> 1584 14.052 >> 1585 14.213 >> 1586 14.568 >> 1587 14.762 >> 1588 14.288 >> 1589 14.069 >> 1590 13.929 >> 1591 13.479 >> 1592 14.044 >> 1593 14.267 >> 1594 14.288 >> 1595 14.609 >> 1596 14.362 >> 1597 13.846 >> 1598 14.098 >> 1599 14.147 >> 1600 14.783 >> 1601 13.995 >> 1602 13.925 >> 1603 13.999 >> 1604 14.688 >> 1605 13.892 >> 1606 15.410 >> 1607 14.325 >> 1608 15.241 >> 1609 15.104 >> 1610 14.531 >> 1611 15.958 >> 1612 14.597 >> 1613 14.337 >> 1614 14.647 >> 1615 13.318 >> 1616 14.424 >> 1617 13.768 >> 1618 14.779 >> 1619 14.886 >> 1620 14.065 >> 1621 14.085 >> 1622 14.626 >> 1623 13.912 >> 1624 13.487 >> 1625 14.292 >> 1626 13.075 >> 1627 13.871 >> 1628 13.850 >> 1629 13.755 >> 1630 14.680 >> 1631 14.048 >> 1632 14.601 >> 1633 15.752 >> 1634 14.420 >> 1635 14.085 >> 1636 14.230 >> 1637 15.426 >> 1638 16.322 >> 1639 14.762 >> 1640 14.882 >> 1641 14.985 >> 1642 14.931 >> 1643 15.484 >> 1644 15.843 >> 1645 14.861 >> 1646 14.284 >> 1647 14.494 >> 1648 14.935 >> 1649 13.966 >> 1650 14.296 >> 1651 13.768 >> 1652 15.001 >> 1653 14.944 >> 1654 15.418 >> 1655 15.146 >> 1656 14.915 >> 1657 14.803 >> 1658 14.638 >> 1659 14.630 >> 1660 14.052 >> 1661 13.702 >> 1662 14.081 >> 1663 14.312 >> 1664 14.197 >> 1665 13.780 >> 1666 14.292 >> 1667 14.634 >> 1668 13.768 >> 1669 14.671 >> 1670 14.246 >> 1671 14.812 >> 1672 15.216 >> 1673 15.810 >> 1674 14.869 >> 1675 16.148 >> 1676 14.977 >> 1677 14.923 >> 1678 15.488 >> 1679 14.956 >> 1680 14.098 >> 1681 14.523 >> 1682 15.327 >> 1683 15.666 >> 1684 15.554 >> 1685 15.270 >> 1686 15.492 >> 1687 15.459 >> 1688 14.754 >> 1689 14.741 >> 1690 14.700 >> 1691 14.906 >> 1692 13.904 >> 1693 14.527 >> 1694 15.063 >> 1695 14.399 >> 1696 15.096 >> 1697 15.360 >> 1698 15.694 >> 1699 15.249 >> 1700 14.779 >> 1701 14.609 >> 1702 15.336 >> 1703 15.121 >> 1704 15.154 >> 1705 15.212 >> 1706 14.750 >> 1707 15.472 >> 1708 14.164 >> 1709 13.665 >> 1710 14.213 >> 1711 14.741 >> 1712 15.521 >> 1713 15.410 >> 1714 14.519 >> 1715 15.154 >> 1716 14.597 >> 1717 15.212 >> 1718 14.688 >> 1719 13.962 >> 1720 15.109 >> 1721 15.839 >> 1722 15.765 >> 1723 15.001 >> 1724 15.389 >> 1725 15.088 >> 1726 14.655 >> 1727 14.312 >> 1728 14.824 >> 1729 14.981 >> 1730 13.640 >> 1731 15.043 >> 1732 13.953 >> 1733 13.681 >> 1734 14.036 >> 1735 13.937 >> 1736 14.832 >> 1737 14.807 >> 1738 14.325 >> 1739 14.337 >> 1740 14.680 >> 1741 14.779 >> 1742 14.255 >> 1743 14.205 >> 1744 14.024 >> 1745 14.069 >> 1746 15.216 >> 1747 15.455 >> 1748 15.447 >> 1749 15.851 >> 1750 15.253 >> 1751 14.626 >> 1752 15.294 >> 1753 15.744 >> 1754 15.158 >> 1755 14.750 >> 1756 15.319 >> 1757 15.059 > > 1758 15.195 >> 1759 14.725 >> 1760 14.609 >> 1761 14.869 >> 1762 15.212 >> 1763 15.505 >> 1764 14.634 >> 1765 15.175 >> 1766 14.552 >> 1767 15.109 >> 1768 14.312 >> 1769 14.090 >> 1770 14.246 >> 1771 14.127 >> 1772 14.667 >> 1773 14.312 >> 1774 14.659 >> 1775 14.296 >> 1776 14.527 >> 1777 14.069 >> 1778 15.005 >> 1779 14.832 >> 1780 15.146 >> 1781 14.865 >> 1782 14.102 >> 1783 13.735 >> 1784 14.510 >> 1785 14.052 >> 1786 14.795 > > 1787 15.455 >> 1788 15.298 >> 1789 14.325 >> 1790 14.927 >> 1791 14.230 >> 1792 14.230 >> 1793 14.836 >> 1794 15.637 >> 1795 15.022 >> 1796 14.473 >> 1797 14.968 >> 1798 14.028 >> 1799 13.463 >> 1800 14.151 >> 1801 15.187 >> 1802 15.290 >> 1803 15.732 >> 1804 14.985 >> 1805 15.224 >> 1806 16.251 >> 1807 13.289 >> 1808 14.420 >> 1809 14.696 >> 1810 14.568 >> 1811 15.802 >> 1812 16.082 >> 1813 16.416 >> 1814 16.082 >> 1815 16.309 >> 1816 15.967 >> 1817 16.247 >> 1818 15.208 >> 1819 15.587 >> 1820 15.323 >> 1821 15.505 >> 1822 14.812 >> 1823 15.298 >> 1824 15.022 >> 1825 15.179 >> 1826 15.967 >> 1827 14.040 >> 1828 14.449 >> 1829 14.242 >> 1830 14.548 >> 1831 14.378 >> 1832 15.137 >> 1833 13.496 >> 1834 14.081 >> 1835 15.228 >> 1836 14.700 >> 1837 14.432 >> 1838 14.927 >> 1839 14.482 >> 1840 15.175 >> 1841 14.296 >> 1842 14.762 >> 1843 14.350 >> 1844 14.770 >> 1845 15.026 >> 1846 14.688 >> 1847 14.944 >> 1848 15.088 >> 1849 14.774 >> 1850 14.865 >> 1851 14.787 >> 1852 14.527 >> 1853 14.502 >> 1854 15.183 >> 1855 14.828 >> 1856 15.270 >> 1857 14.436 >> 1858 14.721 >> 1859 14.539 >> 1860 14.407 >> 1861 14.832 >> 1862 14.271 >> 1863 14.490 >> 1864 13.953 >> 1865 15.290 >> 1866 14.473 >> 1867 15.414 >> 1868 14.440 >> 1869 15.129 >> 1870 15.022 >> 1871 15.468 >> 1872 14.993 >> 1873 14.890 >> 1874 14.638 >> 1875 14.898 >> 1876 14.993 >> 1877 14.366 >> 1878 14.333 >> 1879 13.454 >> 1880 15.369 >> 1881 15.109 >> 1882 15.187 >> 1883 15.278 >> 1884 14.308 >> 1885 15.026 >> 1886 15.385 >> 1887 15.183 >> 1888 14.127 >> 1889 14.985 >> 1890 15.480 >> 1891 14.717 >> 1892 15.773 >> 1893 14.807 >> 1894 15.451 >> 1895 15.179 >> 1896 13.780 >> 1897 14.531 >> 1898 13.912 >> 1899 14.354 >> 1900 15.290 >> 1901 15.752 >> 1902 14.886 >> 1903 15.216 >> 1904 15.938 >> 1905 15.208 >> 1906 14.279 >> 1907 14.923 >> 1908 15.022 >> 1909 15.501 >> 1910 15.633 >> 1911 15.212 >> 1912 13.648 >> 1913 14.329 >> 1914 15.389 >> 1915 14.704 >> 1916 15.983 >> 1917 14.779 >> 1918 14.432 >> 1919 14.024 >> 1920 14.040 >> 1921 14.622 >> 1922 15.315 >> 1923 14.560 >> 1924 15.835 >> 1925 14.927 >> 1926 14.812 >> 1927 15.220 >> 1928 16.433 >> 1929 14.506 >> 1930 14.535 >> 1931 14.073 >> 1932 14.440 >> 1933 15.406 >> 1934 14.708 >> 1935 15.026 >> 1936 14.106 >> 1937 13.372 >> 1938 14.663 >> 1939 13.842 >> 1940 13.879 >> 1941 14.725 >> 1942 14.510 >> 1943 14.337 >> 1944 15.133 >> 1945 14.189 >> 1946 14.048 >> 1947 14.098 >> 1948 14.923 >> 1949 14.733 >> 1950 14.581 >> 1951 15.121 >> 1952 14.073 >> 1953 14.572 >> 1954 14.106 >> 1955 14.457 >> 1956 14.849 >> 1957 14.626 >> 1958 15.374 >> 1959 15.183 >> 1960 14.970 >> 1961 15.140 >> 1962 15.289 >> 1963 14.991 >> 1964 14.395 >> 1965 14.991 >> 1966 15.587 >> 1967 14.948 >> 1968 14.948 >> 1969 14.629 >> 1970 15.779 >> 1971 16.354 >> 1972 15.247 >> 1973 14.671 >> 1974 15.353 >> 1975 16.141 >> 1976 14.586 >> 1977 14.863 >> 1978 15.332 >> 1979 14.948 >> 1980 14.906 >> 1981 15.481 >> 1982 14.991 >> 1983 14.117 >> 1984 15.353 >> 1985 15.225 >> 1986 15.587 >> 1987 15.140 >> 1988 14.863 >> 1989 16.098 >> 1990 15.417 >> 1991 14.991 >> 1992 14.096 >> 1993 14.160 >> 1994 15.183 >> 1995 15.119 >> 1996 15.630 >> 1997 14.927 >> 1998 15.417 >> 1999 16.354 >> >>On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: >> >>>Thanks Ricardo and Ed! I personally am not a >>>big fan of the Jones and Mann SH recon. It is >>>based on so little. On the other hand, it is in >>>the literature. So, I leave it up to you and > >>Keith to decide - perhaps Eystein can weigh in >>>too. >>> >>>I do, however, think it would be really helpful >>>to included the borehole data (see prev. >>>emails) - either as a single SH curve, or >>>(probably better) two regional curves >>>(Australia and S. Africa). Is there a reason >>>this is not a good idea? Can't complain about >>>snow bias down there... >>> >>>Thanks again - I look forward to seeing the >>>next draft and figure - complete w/ borehole I > >>hope. >>> >>>thx, Peck >>> >>>>Hi Keith, >>>> >>>>Please, find attached my last version of the SH temp. As you know, Ed >Cook >>>>returned my original version of the SH with minor comments. Overall, he >>>>agreed with the text. Still I am waiting from him the Oroco Swamp data to >>>>include in the Figure, which first draft I sent you more than a month >ago. >>>> >>>>In the last version I have included a first paragraph referring to the >Jones >>>>and Mann (2003) temperature reconstruction for the SH. At that time we >have >>>>to decide if we want to have the hemispheric (Jones and Mann) and the >>>>regional views (Tasmania, New Zealand, Patagonia, maybe include >Antarctica >>>>(Ommem et al. 2005)), or just one of them. If we decide to stay with the >>>>hemispheric view, we should include Jones and Mann reconstruction at the >>>>bottom of one of your figures. In cases that we decide to maintain both >>>>hemispheric and regional views, we should include Jones and Mann at the >>>>bottom of my figure. Please, could you check with Peck and Eystein to >see >>>>the best way to proceed? Thanks, >>>> >>>>Ricardo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Keith Briffa" >>>>To: ; "Eystein Jansen" >>>>Cc: ; "Ed Cook" >>>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:01 AM >>>>Subject: the regional section and MWP Figure >>>> >>>>> Guys >>>>> still need the SH temp bit from Ricardo/ED to edit and am exploring >the >>>>MWP >>>>> Figure - but the concept still is unclear to me - but we agreed to do >a >>>>> plot like Tom's . The regional section is still a worry - I am happy >to >>>>> very briefly edit the section on NAO (possibly incorporate the ENSO >>>>stuff ) >>>>> but my understanding is that this section is best done (to incorporate >>>>also >>>>> the regional moisture work of Ed ) by Ricardo /Ed with input my Peck. >This >>>>> is still my opinion. I also would appreciate feedback re the regional >>>>> forcing section that I think we may have to drop - but perhaps not. >>>>> Therefore I ask that when i get the SH temp stuff I will incorporate >it >>>>but >>>>> that you guys (Peck, Ricardo, Ed and Eystein interacting over the >North >>>>> Atlantic bit) first review and redo the regional section . >>>>> It is important to get feedback from Henry re the borehole stuff and >>>>> involve Tom in the debate with all of us , of the value of the Figure >. In >>>>> meantime , will experiment with the Figure and review existing text >and >>>>bullets >>>>> Keith >>>>> >>>>> Keith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Professor Keith Briffa, >>>>> Climatic Research Unit >>>>> University of East Anglia >>>>> Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. >>>>> >>>>> Phone: +44-1603-593909 >>>>> Fax: +44-1603-507784 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Southern >>>>hemisphere2.doc (WDBN/«IC») (0008A6E0) >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Jonathan T. Overpeck >>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>>Professor, Department of Geosciences >>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences >>> >>>Mail and Fedex Address: >>> >>>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >>>University of Arizona >>>Tucson, AZ 85721 >>>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >>>fax: +1 520 792-8795 >>>http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >>>http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ >>> >>================================== >>Dr. Edward R. Cook >>Doherty Senior Scholar and >>Director, Tree-Ring Laboratory >>Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory >>Palisades, New York 10964 USA >>Email: drdendro@ldeo.columbia.edu >>Phone: 845-365-8618 >>Fax: 845-365-8152 >>================================== > > >-- >Jonathan T. Overpeck >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >Professor, Department of Geosciences >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > >Mail and Fedex Address: > >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >University of Arizona >Tucson, AZ 85721 >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >fax: +1 520 792-8795 >http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:SHregteml 1.JPG (JPEG/«IC») (0008ADC3) -- Jonathan T. 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