cc: Gavin Schmidt date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:48:36 -0400 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: [Fwd: Jones et al] to: P.Jones@uea.ac.uk thanks Phil, Tom is probably even more vulnerable being in the states. He could become a new center of attack if NCDC indeed revises in a way that substantially increases the trends... mike [1]P.Jones@uea.ac.uk wrote: Mike, Gavin, Managed to read your message Gavin. I knwo this isn't going to stop and will get worse as the WG1 report publication nears. Another issue that may overtake things is new work at NCDC, which is likely to raise recent temps (as the impact of the greater % of buoys is accounted for) and also reduce earlier temps (pre -1940) for reasons that aren't that clear. Tom Peterson will be presenting this here tomorrow, so will learn more. Upshot is that their trend will increase.... Cheers Phil Phil, Gavin has some good advice here, seems to reinforce the thoughts in your earlier email and Ben's suggestion as well. Probably best to put the data up in their most raw format (except for those you can't legally--in those cases give a pointer to the person involved). This will, as Gavin notes, blunt the line of attack that has the greatest traction. If there is some way we can be helpful via RealClimate (e.g. in helping get the word out that the data have been posted once available, etc), please let us know. I'm happy for us to use this as a resource in any way that might be helpful. mike -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [2]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [3]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [4]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [5]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm