cc: Eystein Jansen , Christoph Kull , p.jones@uea.ac.uk, k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, wanner@giub.unibe.ch, thorsten.kiefer@pages.unibe.ch date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:59:00 -0400 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop to: Andrew Weaver I like the idea as well... Mike Andrew Weaver wrote: Seems like an excellent and creative idea! Cheers andrew Hi, this seems very good to me. Since Phil has this contact I am sure there are no hidden strings associated. Eystein At 11:12 +0200 24-10-05, Christoph Kull wrote: Dear Andrew, dear Eystein, While organizing the planned PAGES/CLIVAR workshop on past millennia variability we asked CLIVAR to financially contribute in a similar way as already approved by PAGES (10k). Unfortunately, CLIVAR's budget situation seems to be quite difficult, and therefore CLIVAR isn't able to provide the expected support. While discussing what to do, Phil Jones brought a possibility up to discussion that seems to be very promising - Thanks a lot Phil!!! As seen below, EPRI ( Electric Power Research Institute) could become a co-organizer. This looks like a really good idea to proceed with the organization of this event! We therefore would like to inform you about the development and would like to get some feedback from you as PAGES/CLIVAR foci leaders in order to afterwards proceed with the event organization. See the emails below for further information on the planned / suggested EPRI involvement. Please let me know by Wednesday your comments! All the best, thanks a lot! Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Kull Science Officer PAGES IPO Sulgeneckstrasse 38 CH-3007 Bern Switzerland phone: +4131 312 31 53/33 fax: +4131 312 31 68 ------ Forwarded Message From: "Williams, Larry" [1] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:47:11 -0700 To: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] Cc: [8] Subject: FW: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop Gentlemen: It seems a happy coincidence has happened. With Joel Smith's help I have been searching for many months for a way support a workshop on climate variability. Armed with sufficient budget I have been somewhat surprised at the difficulty of finding scientific talent willing to take on this task. The main problem has been that there are two significant efforts going on in this area that have the experts fully engaged. Between the Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC and the US Climate Change Science Program everyone who could contribute to this type of workshop seems to be fully loaded (burnt out?) and not very interested in yet another set of meetings. So when I read over the draft CLIVAR/PAGES Workshop 2006 I was very pleased to see an agenda that would fit our needs very well. The general scientific thrust outlined in your draft is right on target. The additional benefits from our point of view are: 1. excellent scientific leadership 2. excellent proposed attendees (I recognize many-not all-names on your list) 3. workshop leading to peer-reviewed paper. 4. cosponsorship by other funders-not just EPRI providing the budget The main additional features that I would like to propose would be: 4. brief report on the workshop (cut and paste from the paper?) with an emphasis on creating a list of the most important researchable topics needed to advance the field. The main objective of this report and list would be to use it as a guide for EPRI in funding follow-on research in this area. We can discuss this further at some later time. 5. Acknowledgement of Electric Power Research Institute financial support in the paper and for the meeting. Let me give you a brief explanation of why we are interested in supporting your workshop. In the 90's we had a significant component of climate change science research that we initiated and supported. We had strong involvement with NCAR through our MECCA project, a major carbon cycle project (Carbon Cycle Model Linkage Project [CCMLP]-Colin Prentice, Martin Heiman, Fortunate Joos, and 6 teams of modelers from Europe and the US--see Section 3.6 of TAR for CCMLP references), the US based ecosystem (VEMAP I and II) project, and many other worthy science research efforts. Financial difficulties for the US electric industry during this period eroded our science budget and these projects gradually came to an end. Things are looking better now and we want to get back in the business of supporting excellent climate change science research. This workshop could be an entry point for us to a new period of support for good science. Let me know if EPRI support for your workshop seems feasible from your point of view. If it does we can discuss the next steps on how to proceed. Best Regards, Larry Williams Larry Williams, Ph.D. Senior Technical Manager Global Climate Electric Power Research Institute Office: 650-855-2695 Fax: 650-855-2950 [9]ljwillia@epri.com [10] ________________________________ From: Phil Jones [[11]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: Wed 10/19/2005 8:13 AM To: Joel Smith Cc: Christoph Kull; Keith Briffa; Michael E. Mann; Heinz Wanner; Thorsten Kiefer Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop Joel, The workshop outline is attached. As I said on the phone, I'll be away tomorrow and Friday. PAGES have their support of 10K$ (US) for this and were hoping CLIVAR could match this. CLIVAR has come back and told us that their budget situation isn't good at the moment, and hope for better things later. At the moment we are wondering whether we will go ahead with a smaller workshop. These type of meetings need to be arranged some time in advance because of people's diaries and possible fieldwork commitments. The timing next June was to take advantage of another meeting in London, so we could get North Americans and others slightly cheaper. We also thought the Bernese Oberland in June would also tempt people, together with the excellent list of people we'd put together. Only the organizing committee (this email list) know of the meeting, as we've not approached the majority of the list to check availability. Email Christoph and the others if you're interested. I'm sure emphases can be changed somewhat, but the main thrust is model/data comparisons with respect to past variability. Emphasis would be on temperature, but we'd also look at variability of features such as ENSO, the NAO etc. We've all been to many meetings and know that numbers of 20-30 work best, along with lots of discussion and relatively few presentations. Best Regards Phil Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [12]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------ End of Forwarded Message Attachment converted: Nebbiolo:P-C-workshop_final 1.doc (WDBN/«IC») (0067F418) -- ______________________________________________________________ Eystein Jansen Professor/Director Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen Allégaten 55 N-5007 Bergen NORWAY e-mail: [13]eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 Fax: +47-55-584330 ============================================================================ Mailing Address: | Courier Address: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Weaver | Andrew Weaver School of Earth and Ocean Sciences | School of Earth and Ocean Sciences University of Victoria | at Ian Stewart Complex, Room 296a PO Box 3055 | University of Victoria Victoria, BC, V8W 3P6 | 3964 Gordon Head Road Canada | Victoria, BC, V8N 3X3, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: [14]weaver@uvic.ca | Tel: (250) 472-4001 [15]http://climate.uvic.ca | Fax: (250) 472-4004 ============================================================================ -- Michael E. 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