date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:27:50 +0200 from: Stefan Rahmstorf subject: urgent help re Augusto Mangini to: Jonathan Overpeck , Keith Briffa , Eystein Jansen Dear Peck and IPCC coauthors, - I know it's Easter, but I'm having to deal with Augusto Mangini, a German colleague who has just written an article calling the IPCC paleo chapter "wrong", claiming it has been warmer in the Holocene than now, and stalagmites show much larger temperature variations than tree rings but IPCC ignores them. What should I answer? One of my points is that IPCC shows all published large-scale proxy reconstructions but there simply is none using stalagmites - so please tell me if this is true?!! My main point will be the local vs hemispheric issue, saying that Mangini only provides local examples, while the IPCC statement is about hemispheric or global averages. But how about local variations - do stalagmites show much larger ones than tree rings? Any suggestions what other counter-arguments I could write? Do we have a stalagmite expert on the author team, other than contributing author Dominik Fleitmann, whom I've already identified? I have to submit my response to the newspaper tomorrow. Thanks, Stefan -- Stefan Rahmstorf www.ozean-klima.de www.realclimate.org -- Stefan Rahmstorf www.ozean-klima.de www.realclimate.org