cc: mann@virginia.edu date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:28:26 -0400 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: Fwd: Clivar Conference 2004 to: Keith Briffa Hi Keith, Thanks for getting back to me on this. I'm confused too--perhaps you can seek some clarification from Lennart, and cc me in on this? Copying this message would be fine... I like the idea of gearing the theme towards quantification of natural and anthropogenic variability over e.g. past 1-2 millennia based on proxy data and model/data comparison. We could incorporate perhaps a few number of the "usual suspects" (say just Phil and Ray), and I would want to include Drew Shindell and/or Gavin Schmidt, along w/ Caspar Ammann and/or Simon Tett--Tom Crowley would be logical to include too, unless you say any sort of conflict here. In my experience, Von Storch can be difficult, to say the least, and I would just as soon avoid including him (having tried my best to jointly organize workshops and special sessions with him in the past, and with limited success at best). Will await further word from you, mike At 02:57 PM 5/20/2003 +0100, Keith Briffa wrote: Mike Lennart has managed to confuse me with his latest message. At one point he mentioned that you and I would do a joint overview paper . Now he suggests we choose 5-10 co-authors but also refers to "other people in our section" who he has apparently already informed , need "to consult with you (ie us) as required" (my emphasis). As for my opinion of the theme or content of our section , I suggest it be "quantifying Natural and Anthropogenic influences on the course of Global climate during recent millennia" or some such . This allows for the review , redefinition of Global climate history (Southern as well as Northern , and moisture as well as Temperature). Importantly , it also incorporates the issue of forcing history(ies) and work quantifying the influence of these histories - using simple empirical techniques or using them in conjunction with models of different complexity to attribute causes of this change. I am happy to go with the "usual suspects" in the overview paper , but would be happy if we considered others who are also running controlled model/data comparisons (examples are Von Storch , Simon Tett , Caspar Ammann). We need first to clarify whether we will present one large , multi-author presentation/paper or whether it is just me and you and the others divided into other papers/presentations/posters. Should we copy this message to Lennart or contact him directly with specific questions? Keith At 09:49 PM 5/18/03 -0400, you wrote: Hi Keith, I hope all is well. Apparently, we're supposed to choose 5-10 additional "co-authors"? I guess the obvious ones would be Phil, Tim, Ray, Malcolm, perhaps Ed Cook, Scott Rutherford,...any other suggestions? As I understand it, the co-authors would be invited to attend and present in the poster session; I assume they are listed separately from you and I who will jointly present the oral overview. As for the theme, I'm assuming "climate changes of the past couple/few millennia" or something like that. As we have 45 minutes total between the two of us, I would suggest we each take about 20 minutes, and then we'll have 5 minutes left for questions. Any suggestions, thoughts would be greatly appreciated. thanks, mike X-Sender: m214001@regen.dkrz.de Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 22:53:58 +0200 To: k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, mann@virginia.edu From: "Prof. Dr. Lennart Bengtsson" Subject: Clivar Conference 2004 Cc: bengtsson@dkrz.de, kornelia.mueller@dkrz.de -- Dear Dr. Mann, Dear Dr. Briffa, The preparation of the Clivar conference is progressing well and all invited speakers have now agreed (See attached draft program). As I have informed you previously Journal of Climate will have a special issue devoted to the Conference and I expect you would be willing to prepare a paper to be ready at the time of the conference. I have made arrangements with the chief editor to make a flexible interpretation of the content of the papers so to agree with the objective of the conference and the draft program. We would now like you to come up with a suitable theme for your presentation at the conference as well a list of names which you have selected as co-authors. As we anticipate a broad and forward-looking contribution I believe some 5-10 people seems appropriate. It was our intention that the first person listed should be the lead author but you can arrange this otherwise if you prefer to do so. I have informed the other speakers in your section to consult with you as required. For the conference I expect a rather wide audience in addition to a broad scientific community including representatives from different agencies such as the meteorological services, as well as media representatives. For the media we intend to provide a special set of information. In view of the societal importance of the CLIVAR program and the considerable progress in extended range forecasts and climate change assessment and prediction I believe there will be an excellent opportunity to bring the scientific progress and associated applications of CLIVAR to the participants of the conference. It would be very helpful if you could to let me know the status of your arrangements not later than June 15. If you see any particular difficulties please let me know as soon as possible. As you can see from the attached program each part of the conference will have poster sessions. The poster sessions will be an important part of the conference and I anticipate that some of your co-authors will prepare such posters. We also plan to have the poster contents on a CD ROM prior to the conference. The practical planning of the conference as a whole is proceeding well. The arrangements in Baltimore are quite excellent with the nearby Baltimore inner harbor as a particular attractive focal point. There are all reasons that the conference will be a success both scientifically and socially. See further the Clivar Conference website: [1]http://www.clivar2004.org. We are presently exploring the possibilities for financial support of selected participants. However, any support you may manage to obtain from national funds would be most helpful. With my very best regards Lennart Bengtsson ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [2]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [3]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [4]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml