cc: "Dunford Simon Mr \(MAC\)" , "Palmer Dave Mr \(LIB\)" date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:52:45 +0100 from: "Mcgarvie Michael Mr \(ACAD\)" subject: FW: Data access - request from Ian Hinds to: "Jones Philip Prof \(ENV\)" Phil, Dave Palmer alerted me to the recent email to you. I asked his advice on what advice/support we should give you. The view is that a response acknowleding the email and saying that we await the formal FOISA request should be sufficient. Simone Dunford from the Press Office is happy to respond in this way if you would prefer it. Regards Michael Michael McGarvie Director of Faculty Administration Faculty of Science Room 0.22B University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ tel: 01603 593229 fax: 01603 593045 m.mcgarvie@uea.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Dunford Simon Mr (MAC) Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:54 AM To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB); Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD) Cc: Press Office; Colam Jonathan Mr (ISD) Subject: RE: Data access Hi all I've had a brief discussion with Annie about this and we agree that any response should simply acknowledge receipt of the email and state that the FOI request will be dealt with in the normal manner when it arrives. Perhaps Phil should be kept right out of it. I'm happy to respond on Phil's behalf if you like. Simon Simon Dunford, Press Officer, University of East Anglia, Norwich, NR4 7TJ. Tel:+44 (0)1603 592203 www.uea.ac.uk/comm >-----Original Message----- >From: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB) [mailto:David.Palmer@uea.ac.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:45 AM >To: Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD) >Cc: Press Office; Colam Jonathan Mr (ISD) >Subject: RE: Data access > >Michael, >The writer clearly indicates that a request is to come and I think that >we should wait for that. The first question could be answered >I suppose >with a general statement regarding our processing of FOIA requests but >clearly the second is unanswerable in any form that would not appear >either provocative or slightly ludicrous. > >I would look to Annie or Simon for advice on a response from Phil >directly - flame wars are dangerous things to get into and given the >apparent antipathy to Phil by this person (and community), any response >would (a) immediately get published and (b) likely be rubbished >completely. > >I would very much recommend against any emotive response or internal >correspondence with any declarations regarding other persons; opinions >about other persons are the personal information of that person and >liable to a data subject request under the Data Protection Act 1998. > >In terms of impact, what I don't know is the reach of the contributors >to this site outside the climate research field, i.e. in the larger >'media world'. I can state that the writer below is not >someone that we >have had dealings with in the past. > >Hope this helps move things along. > >Cheers, Dave > >Cc. JC for information > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD) >>Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:03 AM >>To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB) >>Cc: Press Office >>Subject: RE: Data access >> >>Dave, >> >>Thanks for this. >> >>As a FOIA request will come on the back of it I suggest that >>we wait for that to come. If you feel that Phil should not >>respond to this but wait for the formal request could you let >>him know please? >> >>Regards >> >>Michael >> >> >> >>Michael McGarvie >>Director of Faculty Administration >>Faculty of Science >>Room 0.22B >>University of East Anglia >>Norwich NR4 7TJ >> >>tel: 01603 593229 >>fax: 01603 593045 >> >>m.mcgarvie@uea.ac.uk >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB) >>Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:56 AM >>To: Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD) >>Cc: Press Office >>Subject: FW: Data access >> >>Michael, >>I am not sure whether this qualifies as a request and clearly >>we should be expecting something more detailed in the near >>future. The link is to an update from Mr. McIntyre on the >>HadCRUT data that had been requested from us back in 2007. >>The article clearly states an intent to make a FOIA request. >> >>Cheers, Dave >> >>Cc. Press Office for information >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ian Hinds [mailto:ianh@orange.net] >>Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:29 PM >>To: Jones Philip Prof (ENV) >>Cc: Briffa Keith Prof (ENV); Goodess Clare Dr (ENV); >>chiefexec@rmets.org; Sheppard Sylv Miss (SCI); David Keith >>Palmer; Carruth Geoffrey Mr (ACAD); Goodwin Nicholas Dr >>(ACAD); Schofield Julie Ms (ACAD); Danino-Appleton Vittoria Dr >>(ACAD); Johnson Sue Mrs (ACAD); Carter Jon Dr (ACAD); Press >>Office; Ogden Annie Ms (MAC); Dunford Simon Mr (MAC); Bartman >>Cat Ms (MAC); Horton Lisa Miss (MAC) >>Subject: Data access >> >>Dear Mr Jones >> >>As a UK tax payer from the productive economy, could you >>please explain >>why you restrict access to data sets that are gathered using >tax payer >>funds e.g. CRUTEM3. Can you believe how embarassing this is to >>a UK TAX >>PAYER, putting up with your amateurish non disclosure of enviromental >>information. >> >>For reference http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=5962 refers to >>your absymal >>attitude to public data, although this is just the latest in an >>embarassing set of reasonable requests from CRU, who the hell do you >>think you are? There will of course be an FOI on the back of this >> >>Regards >>Ian >> >