cc: "Jones Philip Prof \(ENV\)" , "Goodess Clare Dr \(ENV\)" date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:29:44 +0100 from: "Deborah Wargate" subject: RE: Climate change research to: "Tofield Bruce Dr \(LCIC\)" Hi Bruce Thank you very much - yes we have some very clever indvidiuals within our district who have presented me with a CD of information of which my few lines is a very brief summary of one element and they will no doubt be spreading the word locally. One of whom is very keen to have a discussion with scientific experts in the field regarding what he sees as dire misinformation regarding climate change, the greenhouse effect and human influence which is why I will now mention his name where usually I would keep it confidential, Dr Hans Schreuder. If such an oportunity did arise it could really help those of us who had to leave university far too early although whether Poles Apart can be brought together I am never sure. Yes real climate is a useful resource which I must confess I haven't looked at recently - I shall do so now. Kind regards Deborah ______________________________________________________________________________________ From: Tofield Bruce Dr (LCIC) [mailto:B.Tofield@uea.ac.uk] Sent: Mon 24/08/2009 18:53 To: Deborah Wargate Cc: Jones Philip Prof (ENV); Goodess Clare Dr (ENV) Subject: RE: Climate change research Hi Deborah I'm copying your e-mail to people more expert than myself in the detail of climate change measurement and modelling. Phil or Clare - could you perhaps send any relevant papers to Deborah. It is important that the Suffolk Climate Change Strategy gets the best advice it can - they are doing a great job overall. However, while it is sad that there seem still to be climate change deniers (who are probably responsible directly or indirectly for the response you quote) there are a number of sites that can provide helpful insight. One of the most useful is realclimate.org which needs a bit of exploring but can usually provide a helpful antidote to the lies that are otherwise peddled and which are difficult to refute. In respect of short-term fluctuations in long-term trends - which is what your responders are getting at I think - El Nino can have a significant impact. For information on this see [1]http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/07/global-trends-and-enso/. Extracting a sentence from this: The warmest year designation (now in the absence of a strong El Niņo) is more clearly seen to be 2005 (in GISTEMP) or either 2005 or 2001 (in HadCRUT3v). This last decade is still the warmest decade in the record, and the top 8 or 10 years (depending on the data source) are all in the last 10 years! The link to similar work is to [2]http://www.amos.org.au/documents/item/82, see p9. Another place to look for correct information is the Met Office site, [3]http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/index.html. Here, the link to Fact 2 gives straightforward information about the recent and current situation. It's dire and it is important not to be put off taking action by stupid misinformation. Hope this helps - but the people in CRU are the real experts. Bruce This email may contain privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender and delete all copies. 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I am trawling through reponses to the SCDC climate change strategy to present a report to the Green Issues Task Group and one concerns me as I may well be challenged on it and it is not a piece of research I am familiar with: The response is: The premise that warming of the climate system is unequivocal is false - research published by inter alia the climatic research unit of the University of East Anglia shows that the combined global land and marine surface temperature has fallen since 2004. Now unfortunately it does not give any more information as to the name of the research etc although I suspect looking at the CRU website it is Brohan, P., J.J. Kennedy, I. Harris, S.F.B. Tett and P.D. Jones, 2006: Uncertainty estimates in regional and global observed temperature changes: a new dataset from 1850. J. Geophysical Research 111, D12106, [4]doi:10.1029/2005JD006548 Do you know 1) where I could get a look at a copy of the above 2) if the person could be refering to anything else and where I can get copies of that If you can answer these queries and have any other thoughts that would be much appreciated. I am writing to a tight timescale - report due in on 3rd Sept. Kind regards Deborah Wargate _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this email or any of its attachments may be privileged or confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software and then delete this email. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, retain or disclose any information contained in this e-mail. 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