date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:07:19 +0800 from: "Zhongwei Yan" subject: Re: Fw: RCUK Science Bridges Awards to: "Phil Jones" Phil, I did not know Ren's paper. Thanks for informing and I'll include it into our Beijing paper. My impression is that the results of urban bias greatly depend on the 'references'. You may infer the difference between Hua et al (2007, TAC) and this paper, for large cities: Hua: the largest UW = 0.12K/dec for winter Tmin over China (little trend for Tmax, smaller trends for other seasons) Ren: 0.16C/dec for annul mean T over N China (the effect in N China may be stronger, but does Hua's result appear too small?) For Beijing, results varied for a dozen of possible reference stations. It's hard to determine a best reference. Re: RCUK - I contacted its office in Beijing. The result was not encouraging. I was told that they prefer NOT to support basic science but something more directly linkable to social applications and innovations in industries. So we'd better forget it. Cheers. ZW