date: Mon Sep 17 10:07:46 2007 from: Keith Briffa subject: Fwd: RE: Wahl & Ammann AND Ammann & Wahl papers to: t.m.melvin@uea.ac.uk Subject: RE: Wahl & Ammann AND Ammann & Wahl papers Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:34:11 -0400 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wahl & Ammann AND Ammann & Wahl papers thread-index: AcZ9XVnGmRo/mcXeQ+an5Be9wUab+V49zQeQ From: "Wahl, Eugene R" To: "Jonathan Overpeck" Cc: "Eystein Jansen" , , "Keith Briffa" Hello Peck, Eystein, Tim, Keith: Please find attached the e-versions of the WA and AW papers re: the "hockey-stick". These are now available as "to-come-in-print" articles from Climatic Change. I believe the WA one was just loaded yesterday. As I understand it, official "print" publication will be this November. These versions HAVE gone through the author proof process, and thus I anticipate no possibility of them being further changed before print publication. Note brief correspondence yesterday with Phil Jones re: proof-level changes that were made to WA (copied below). Peace, Gene Dr. Eugene R. Wahl Assistant Professor of Environmental Studies Division of Environmental Studies and Geology Alfred University One Saxon Drive Alfred, NY 14802 607.871.2604 ************************************************************************ ******* From: Wahl, Eugene R Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:44 PM To: 'Phil Jones'; Caspar Ammann Subject: RE: Wahl/Ammann Hi Phil: There were inevitably a few things that needed to be changed in the final version of the WA paper, such as the reference to the GRL paper that was not published (replaced by the AW paper here), two or three additional pointers to the AW paper, changed references of a Mann/Rutherford/Wahl/Ammann paper from 2005 to 2007, and a some other very minor grammatical/structural things. I tried to keep all of this to the barest minimum possible, while still providing a good reference structure. I imagine that MM will make the biggest issue about the very existence of the AW paper, and then the referencing of it in WA; but that was simply something we could not do without, and indeed AW does a good job of contextualizing the whole matter. Steve Schneider seemed well satisfied with the entire matter, including its intellectual defensibility (sp?) and I think his confidence is warranted. That said, any other thoughts/musings you have are quite welcome. Peace, Gene -----Original Message----- From: Phil Jones [[1]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:30 AM To: Wahl, Eugene R; Caspar Ammann Subject: Wahl/Ammann Gene/Caspar, Good to see these two out. Wahl/Ammann doesn't appear to be in CC's online first, but comes up if you search. You likely know that McIntyre will check this one to make sure it hasn't changed since the IPCC close-off date July 2006! Hard copies of the WG1 report from CUP have arrived here today. Ammann/Wahl - try and change the Received date! Don't give those skeptics something to amuse themselves with. Cheers Phil