date: Mon Feb 21 12:15:39 2005 from: Phil Jones subject: Fwd: Re: WMO non respondo to: "Hans Teunissen" Hans, This guy pesters me from time to time. I've given him your name at WMO/GCOS as someone who'll reply. We can discuss the merits of my stance in April ! He wants to find fault with some of our station data and by default that the world isn't warming. If you can just tell him some wmo email addresses that might respond. Why I'm helping him with emails is beyond me ! He wants to discredit what I've done. Why the gridded data isn't good enough is beyond me. Cheers Phil To: wshughes@iinet.net.au From: Phil Jones Subject: Re: WMO non respondo Warwick, Hans Teunisson will reply. He'll tell you which other people should reply. Hans is "Hans Teunissen" . I should warn you that some data we have we are not supposed top pass on to others. We can pass on the gridded data - which we do. Even if WMO agrees, I will still not pass on the data. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it. There is IPR to consider. You can get similar data from GHCN at NCDC. Australia isn't restricted there. Several European countries are. Basically because, for example, France doesn't want the French picking up data on France from Asheville. Meteo France wants to supply data to the French on France. Same story in most of the others. Cheers Phil At 17:42 17/02/2005, you wrote: Dear Phil, Greetings from sunny Perth. Re the issue of the non-availability of your station by station global data. I have this month emailed the WMO a couple of times with the text below this email, no response so far. I have used the following two email addresses from the "ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTORY Offices and Departments:" on the WMO web site. First the Office of the Secretary-General(SG) sg_o@wmo.int and looking down their long list of Departments I selected World Climate Data and Monitoring Programme Division (WCD) with email address wcdmp@wmo.int . I wondered if you had any suggestion for a WMO email address that might respond ? Best wishes, Warwick Hughes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Chief Executive Officer, World Climate Data and Monitoring Programme Division (WCD), Last July I emailed Prof Phil Jones; Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK asking him for his "...station by station temperature data, updated through 2001 referred to on your CRU web page; [1]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/#datdow as "Over land regions of the world over 3000 monthly station temperature time series are used." Professor Jones replied to say that he had been asked to stop releasing those data. In view of the desirability that the free flow of scientific data be maintained, I feel sure this is a misunderstanding and I look forward to you letting Prof Jones know that the WMO has no objection to him quickly passing on to me these global station by station temperature data updated as recent as possible. I have been researching and publishing on climate science since the early 1990's, see list below. Refereed Published Papers: 1992 Robert C. Balling, Jr., Sherwood B. Idso, and Warwick S. Hughes. "Long-Term and Recent Anomalous Temperature Changes in Australia." Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 19, No. 23, pp. 2317-2320. 1995 Robert C. Balling, Jr. and Warwick S. Hughes. "Comments on "Detecting Climate Change Concurrent with Deforestation in the Amazon Basin: Which Way Has It Gone ?" Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Vol. 76, No. 4, 9. 559. 1995 Warwick S. Hughes. Comment on D.E. Parker, "Effects of Changing Exposure of Thermometers at Land Stations." International Journal of Climatology, Vol. 15, pp. 231-234. 1996 Warwick S. Hughes and Robert C. Balling, Jr. "Urban Influences on South African Temperature Trends." International Journal of Climatology, Vol. 16, No. 8, pp. 935-940. Online at [2]http://www.john-daly.com/s-africa.htm 1997 Warwick S. Hughes. Comment on, "Historical Thermometer Exposures in Australia." by N. Nichols et al. International Journal of Climatology, Vol. 17, pp. 197-199. I look forward to your assistance. Yours faithfully, Warwick S. Hughes Perth Australia 61895930975 Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------