date: Fri Oct 22 08:17:49 2004 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: IPCC AR4 WG1: will you be a contributor? to: Mark.Rodwell@ecmwf.int Mark, It is supposed to be hard, but if you send something to me (and sort of forget Kevin) I can add it in when I put the thing together. Kevin has some travel in early January, so that is my major task for this draft. So, tell Kevin you'll do something if you want to do something and you'll email towards the end of November. Let me also know in December how you're getting on with Gibraltar. The person in Spain is keen to work on the data, but probably not in November as she'll be away. Cheers Phil At 12:57 21/10/2004, you wrote: Hi Phil, There is no way I can start to produce anything "considered" until I get back from China on 10 November. Do you know how hard the 1 November deadline is? Cheers, Mark. Phil Jones wrote: Mark, Not sure where we are with a contribution from you re Ch 3 of WGI. I need to read all the emails from Kevin et al. Knackered at the moment from the flight back from Seattle. I'm away all of next week on holiday, but I'll get back to it in November when you're away. Main reason for emailing. Further work on the Gib record would help. I have someone in Spain who is keen to compare the series with Cadiz/San Fernando and this might help with any adjustments needed for the Gib series. Cheers Phil At 14:39 18/10/2004, you wrote: Hi Phil, I must admit that I had been wondering whether an IPCC contribution on subtropical anticyclones could be the impetus I need for completion of the Gibraltar work. The aim of the Gib work was, after all, to avoid calibrations that removed any climate change signal from the data. Do you have any thoughts on this? Regards, Mark. f028 wrote: Mark, I hope the note from Kevin is clear. We are hoping to say a lot more than previously in IPCC reports about the Circulation. I am at the moment sleepless in Seattle at a meeting. I'll be back in CRU on Thursday and Friday and then away all next week, but in CRU the rest of the year. I hope you can contribute something. It needn't be long. I did my best to keep you in as a CA. HAve a word with Adrian Simmons if you need to. By the way, I'm keen when I ever get some time to work more on the Gibraltar records. Do you have all the digitised series, or should I approach Rob Allan? I have a Spanish colleague who is keen to work with me on them and the San Fernando series. You can still be involved if you want. I will contact Dennis Wheeler for the earlier series as well when I get back. Cheers Phil ===== Original Message From Kevin Trenberth ===== Hi Mark Glad you are back. As you can see we are on a tight schedule: for the zero order draft. But there is time to refine and update for the first order draft which is mid 2005. Your task is not to deal with anthropogenic anything, but merely to say what can be said about trends or low frequency variability in the subtropical highs and related circulation systems. The thing is I am not sure who else to call on. At this point it can be quite short. In some instances it may be that not much can be said: and we should say that. The idea here is to get a phenomenological perspective to complement the variable perspective of how T and precip has changed. Is there a change in the Mediterranean climate perhaps linked to changing Asian monsoon, might be a question to address, for instance. So I don't accept your declination, at least yet. Kevin Dear Kevin, cc Panmao and Phil, I have just got back from holiday. Thanks for your kind invitation to contribute to Chapter 3 of the IPCC Fourth Assessment. Unfortunately I have an imminent meeting in China to prepare for which takes us beyond the IPCC submission deadline of 1 November. Although I have published on subtropical highs, I have never investigated the anthropogenic aspect of tropical / subtropical climate and so I would need to do a considerable amount of reading and personal investigation to be able to make any contribution. I am sorry, therefore, to have to decline this invitation. However, I would be happy to read and make comments on others' contributions to section 3.7 Best wishes, Mark. ____________________________________________________________ Dr. Mark J. Rodwell European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts ECMWF Diagnostics & Predictability Shinfield Park Tel: (+44/0) 118 949 9603 Reading Fax: (+44/0) 118 986 9450 RG2 9AX Email: mark.rodwell@ecmwf.int UK WWW: [1]http://www.ecmwf.int ____________________________________________________________ -- ____________________________________________________________ Dr. Mark J. 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