cc: Mike Hulme , p.jones@uea.ac.uk, Ben Santer date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 07:51:43 -0600 from: Tom Wigley subject: Re: Fwd: Climate Research to: "Michael E. Mann" Mike (Mann), I agree that Kinne seems like he could be a deFreitas clone. However, what would be our legal position if we were to openly and extensively tell people to avoid the journal? Tom. __________________________________ Michael E. Mann wrote: > Thanks Mike > > It seems to me that this "Kinne" character's words are disingenuous, and > he probably supports what De Freitas is trying to do. It seems clear we > have to go above him. > > I think that the community should, as Mike H has previously suggested in > this eventuality, terminate its involvement with this journal at all > levels--reviewing, editing, and submitting, and leave it to wither way > into oblivion and disrepute, > > Thanks, > > mike > > At 01:00 PM 7/3/2003 +0100, Mike Hulme wrote: > >> Phil, Tom, Mike, >> >> So, this would seem to be the end of the matter as far as Climate >> Research is concerned. >> >> Mike >> >>> To >>> CLIMATE RESEARCH >>> Editors and Review Editors >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> In my 20.06. email to you I stated, among other things, that I would >>> ask CR editor Chris de Freitas to present to me copies of the >>> reviewers' evaluations for the 2 Soon et al. papers. >>> >>> I have received and studied the material requested. >>> >>> Conclusions: >>> >>> 1) The reviewers consulted (4 for each ms) by the editor presented >>> detailed, critical and helpful evaluations >>> >>> 2) The editor properly analyzed the evaluations and requested >>> appropriate revisions. >>> >>> 3) The authors revised their manuscripts accordingly. >>> >>> Summary: >>> >>> Chris de Freitas has done a good and correct job as editor. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Otto Kinne >>> Director, Inter-Research >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> Inter-Research, Science Publisher >>> Ecology Institute >>> Nordbuente 23, >>> D-21385 Oldendorf/Luhe, >>> Germany >>> Tel: (+49) (4132) 7127 Email: ir@int-res.com >>> Fax: (+49) (4132) 8883 http://www.int-res.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Inter-Research - Publisher of Scientific Journals and Book Series: >>> >>> - Marine Ecology Progress Series (MEPS) >>> - Aquatic Microbial Ecology (AME) >>> - Diseases of Aquatic Organisms (DA0) >>> - Climate Research (CR) >>> - Ethics in Science and Environmental Politics (ESEP) >>> - Excellence in Ecology >>> - Top Books >>> - EEIU Brochures >>> >>> YOU ARE INVITED TO VISIT OUR WEB SITES: www.int-res.com >>> and www.eeiu.org >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Professor Michael E. Mann > Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall > University of Virginia > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > _______________________________________________________________________ > e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 > http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml >