date: Tue Aug 9 16:43:39 2005
from: Phil Jones
subject: Re: DTR etc
to: Kevin Trenberth
Kevin,
Russ is supposed to be sending the diagrams by the close of his
day today. The plot he sent me yesterday for 79-04 for DTR looks
better over southern South America. Decisions about infilling and
periods of record seem to be important there. Australia looks
similar with what Lisa sent (the BoM figure). I've been concentrating
on these two regions. Spain is a mix of blue and red.
Attaching the plot, dtr at the bottom. Max and then min presumably
are the other two.
Russ knows exactly what we want, so wait for an email from him
in about 4-5 hours time. We should be getting this bottom plot
plus max/min/dtr time series from 1950.
Paper pdf will likely come later on Wednesday or early
Thursday.
Cheers
Phil
At 15:43 09/08/2005, you wrote:
Hi Phil
I am wondering how to discuss this: Aiguo has some different values and some for US are
different than theirs yet fit with other things. Matilde was adamant about S America: I
wonder what the reference is? What about Spain?
If there are references, then we can opening discuss some differences (and hopefully
they can be resolved by next draft). It won't do to have one product that is at odds
with some others: that will invite comments.
Kevin
Phil Jones wrote:
Kevin,
Russ has only sent me 2-3 emails on this. We've been discussing
some of the decisions made on station inclusion. He sent me some
revised maps yesterday - of max, min and dtr for the two periods.
I reminded him of what we want - dtr map for 79-04 and the time series
of max/min/dtr for 50-04.
Russ said he hoped to get these plus a pdf by the end of today.
His latest DTR trend for 79-04 is -0.001 K/dec. Paper will have
trends for the other period and for NH and SH separately.
Cheers
Phil
At 21:35 08/08/2005, you wrote:
Kevin:
Phil and I have been in close communication on this. I haven't been CCing everyone
because I didn't want to fill up everyone's in-box with many small messages (I sent 5
just this morning).
Kevin Trenberth wrote:
Dear Russ and David
It is the last few days for our IPCC chapter and we need to resolve the DTR stuff.
1) There was supposed to be an updated Fig 3.2.2 on global time series of max min and
DTR. The current one shows a downward drift in DTR although smaller after 1979.
2) What about 3.2.11: this is th map of DTR trends 1979to 2004?
3) What about Vose et al 2005?
Vose, R.S., D.R. Easterling, and B. Gleason, 2005a: Maximum and minimum temperature
trends for the globe: An update through 2004. Geophys. Res. Lett. (submitted).
I still have not seen this and nor has Phil.
We need this immediately, if not before.
These are now extremely urgent. If the paper is not submitted then we can't refer to
it. We have to submit a pdf to TSU by end of the week. And the LAs need to evaluate
it. So we can not tolerate any delay at all.
Regards
Kevin
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Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax)
Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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