cc: "Keith Briffa" , "Phil Jones" , "Raymond s.bradley" , "Malcolm Hughes" , mann@virginia.edu date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:00:30 -0500 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: Fwd: RE: posting of message to: Tim Osborn Hi Tim, Disregard my previous email, for updates you can refer people to our webpage here: [1]http://holocene.evsc.virginia.edu/Mann/EEReply.html Right now, its just a mirror of your page, but w/ the response updated. I can always update it at a later time, but why don't you just link here for updates.. Thanks a bunch. Can you get this in before quitting time tonight? I think it's important people see the clarified version, lest they be confused about how the PCs were calculated for the sub networks. Thanks a bunch, mike At 03:19 PM 11/3/2003 +0000, Tim Osborn wrote: Mike, I will place the revised version on the website, but I would also like to give you the flexibility to add further information or discussion over the coming weeks. What I would like to do is to put the revised version on the site, keep the one posted there on Saturday as well (with appropriate explanation), and also add in a link to your website and say that people can go there for later updates and/or further information that you may add whenever it seems appropriate. To do this, I just need a web address of where you will put such things. Even if you have nothing further to add yet, the web address needs to point to a page that exists, even if almost empty. Does that sound good to you? Cheers Tim At 14:51 03/11/2003, you wrote: Hi Tim, Can you let me know as soon as the revised version has been substituted? Thanks a bunch, mike Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:00:57 -0500 To: Tim Osborn From: "Michael E. Mann" Subject: RE: posting of message Cc: rbradley , Keith Briffa , Malcolm Hughes, phil Jones Tim, OK--try this one. I've given it the same name as the original, and so you can just overprint the pdf file in the link... thanks again, mike At 01:51 PM 11/3/2003 +0000, you wrote: Mike - first sentence (in parentheses) of third paragraph of new version seems to have a word or two missing - Tim At 13:29 03/11/2003, you wrote: Hey, Can you guys replace the current pdf w/ the new one using the same name as the old one? This is because some websites, blogs, etc. are already pointing to the URL for the pdf file, and I want to make sure they point to the updated pdf file. I promise we won't continue to revise and ask you to repost, etc. I spent the weekend looking over this to see if there were any things that needed to be clarified, and that's how I came up w/ the small number of revisions. Thanks again for your help, mike At 11:08 AM 11/3/2003 +0000, Tim Osborn wrote: Hi Mike et al, I added this to the statement on our website, trying to phrase it so that the disagreement between MM and many other (really "*every*"?) reconstructions was seen as reason to more carefully check MM than as reason to reject MM. [2]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/paleo/ Cheers Tim At 16:59 01/11/2003, Michael E. Mann wrote: The fact that the MM is so at odds with *every* other published estimate, not just MBH98 Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [3]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: [4]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [5]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [6]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: [7]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [8]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [9]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [10]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: [11]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [12]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml