cc: Peter Thorne , Stephen Klein , Susan Solomon , John Lanzante , Melissa Free , Dian Seidel , Tom Wigley , Karl Taylor , Thomas R Karl , Carl Mears , "David C. Bader" , "'Francis W. Zwiers'" , Frank Wentz , Leopold Haimberger , "Michael C. MacCracken" , Steve Sherwood , Tim Osborn , Gavin Schmidt , "Hack, James J." , peter gleckler , Doug Nychka , Richard W Reynolds , Peter Thorne date: Fri Mar 7 10:06:26 2008 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: David Parker's review to: santer1@llnl.gov, santer1@llnl.gov Ben et al, Useful reviews, even if they are very favourable. I hope we're nearly there and you can put this to bed over the Easter break - well we do in the UK! It is more than being bowled middle stump - more like hit wicket or running your fellow batsman out. Totally self inflicted. It might take you a while to submit this with IJC's new online submission process. You'll have to add in all the email addresses, but it shouldn't be as onerous as JGR's would have been. We should all then get an email to say you've submitted it - when you have. I found it amazing that DCPS07 had used 79-99 for the models and then 79-04 for the obs. Hope this is also in the text as well as the caption for Fig 7. Cheers Phil At 00:22 07/03/2008, Ben Santer wrote: Dear folks, As Melissa pointed out, I mistakenly appended the NOAA ARL review (rather than David Parker's review) at the end of my email. Sorry about that. David's comments are now reproduced below. With best regards, Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EXCERPT FROM EMAIL OF MARCH 5, 2008 FROM PETER THORNE: 3. David Parker has done internal review and is happy so I'll send current version to DEFRA for approval. He had a number of minor comments. He also says he thinks your section 6 is good and I'm worrying over nothing. David tends to be a very good judge on such matters. His exact phrase was "It's nice and simple so don't complicate it. You've bowled DCPS07 out middle stump!" I reproduce his minor comments below: a. p. 6 end of first full para he thinks constitute should be plural constitutes b. p. 11 last sentence suggests: "... troposhere roughly follows the moist adiabatic profile set ..." c. p. 17 First full para he suggests removal of "As this brief introductions shows," d. p. 19 between eq 4 and eq 5 suggests average time index rather than time-average index and insertion of e(t) after residuals. e. p. 28 second line says should be adjusted standard error f. p. 28 last full sentence thinks the underlined not should come before all models. g. p. 31 he thinks "there are 20 different combinations of realizations" is confusing and that insertion of something akin to (this doubles up the comparisons because e.g d(2,5)=-d(5,2)) would be useful. Not sure I agree on this. h. p. 33 he notes that 0.86 is also close to T2 lag-1 auto-corr and that from RSS and I think it may be worth stating this here to make clear that this choice is very sensible. i. Start of section 8 he suggests Several recent comparisons j. Page 65, he thinks should start in Panel A and not in panel B k. Figure 7 caption: The yellow envelope represents 2 sigma SE ... l. Table 2 caption says SENS1 and SENS2 whereas the table is SEN1 and SEN2 m. He thinks that in the key to Figure 7 the grey shading should be denoted as "2 sigma std. dev. of model ensemble mean trends. I'm not sure on this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin D. Santer Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory P.O. Box 808, Mail Stop L-103 Livermore, CA 94550, U.S.A. Tel: (925) 422-2486 FAX: (925) 422-7675 email: santer1@llnl.gov ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------