cc: Jonathan Overpeck , Tim Osborn , oyvind.paasche@geo.uib.no, Martin Manning date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:03:17 +0200 from: Eystein Jansen subject: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers] to: Keith Briffa Hi Keith,see correspondance below. Just to make sure. is the Briffa et al. paper submitted, or should it be deleted from the FOD? The ref to the Wilson et al. paper I assume comes from Peck/Julie, who can handle the issue. Right, Peck? Eystein Envelope-to: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:05:33 -0600 To: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no, jto@u.arizona.edu From: Martin Manning Subject: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers] Cc: ssolomon@al.noaa.gov, ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 1.8 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 0.8 BODY: Contains 'Dear (something)' 1.0 BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list 0.1 BODY: Message is 30% to 40% HTML 0.0 BODY: HTML included in message Dear Eystein and Peck Following the release of the first draft of the WG1-AR4 we have had a response from Steve McIntyre (a name that should ring a bell) regarding unpublished literature in Chapter 6. He also asks about access to data sets but that is not an IPCC function so is easily dealt with. The unpublished papers that he has picked up as not being available are: Briffa, K.R., T.M. Melvin, V.V. Shishov, and et. al, 2005: Warm season temperatures across northern Eurasia: a 2000-year tree-ring based study. Quaternary Science Reviews(In preparation). and Wilson and al. 2005 (mentioned on page 6-31) The first of these was I think meant to be deleted from the text here and we may have made an error in missing that. The second is cited but does not appear in the reference list so we did not pick it up as an unpublished paper that needed to be collected. Could you please let me know: 1) are drafts for either of these papers available yet and if so can you send copies to the TSU? 2) how do you expect to use these references in the second draft - remembering that we can only use papers that are in press at that time and that the Briffa et al paper is used quite a bit - e.g. on page 6-29. I am attaching the correspondence with McIntyre below for your information but the only issues you need to consider are those above, and we will handle any further interactions with McIntyre from here. Thanks Martin Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:42:00 -0600 From: IPCC-WG1 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: martin Manning Subject: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers] X-Rcpt-To: X-DPOP: Version number supressed -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:30:52 -0400 From: Steve McIntyre [1] To: IPCC-WG1 [2] References: <026101c5bd56$fbafb280$6402a8c0@herbert> [3]<432F2687.3030101@al.noaa.gov> <029101c5bd95$4d2ae240$6402a8c0@herbert> [4]<43303CC7.7080401@al.noaa.gov> It's possible that the references were inadvertently left in, in which case your suggestion that a comment be pointed on the review form would obviously suffice. However, it's equally possible that the authors intend to use these references and they inadvertently failed to post them up on the website. If the latter, then they should ask the authors to post up the references. Could you verify which applies with the authors and, if the latter, take appropriate steps. Additionally, I have attempted to locate van Ommen, Annals of Glaciology, 39, mentioned in the same section. Can you confirm that this volume has either been printed or made available electronically (as I am presently unable to locate wither). If not, then this should be made available in a pdf form at the website. I have been unable to locate supplementary information or data archives for several of the articles posted at the pdf location for Chapter 6 and would appreciate assistance in this regard. 1) Hegerl et al, submitted. Can you provide me with an ftp location for the proxy data used in this study (which does not even list the proxies used) or post it at your website. 2) D'Arrigo et al, submitted. Again, this data has not been archived at WDCP. Can you provide me with an ftp location for the proxy data used in this study or post it at your website. Similarly, the SI to Rutherford et al, 2005 does not contain the Briffa et al. data set. Again can you provide an ftp location for this dataset or otherwise provide it. Thank you for your attention, Steve McIntyre ----- Original Message ----- From: [5]IPCC-WG1 To: [6]Steve McIntyre Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers Dear Dr McIntyre, It would seem that the authors may have inadvertently left in the Wilson et al. and Briffa et al. citations, as I do not have copies of the preprints for either. I apologize for the discrepancy and have made note of this error for the authors for correction of the next draft, but if you would also like to comment on this in your review, please do so. Best regards, Melinda Tignor Steve McIntyre wrote: Thanks for the directions. I found 5 of them there. I was still unable to locate Briffa et al, 2005 (QSR in prep) or Wilson and al. 2005 (mentioned on page 6-31). Could you take a look for them. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: [7]IPCC-WG1 To: [8]Steve McIntyre Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers Dear Mr McIntyre, As mentioned on the Reviewer website, copies of unpublished literature may be downloaded for your review. Papers for each chapter are found at the same website: URL: [9]http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/restricted/review/FOR/ UserName: WG1-FOR Password: 2005Nov04 Once inside the site, click on "Download Draft Chapters" on the left side of the page. From here, scroll down the page where you downloaded the chapter to the last sentence, "If you wish to see copies of unpublished papers cited in the draft chapters click here" - click "here" and you will be taken to another page listing all the chapters with unpublished literature and from clicking on the individual chapter you will be taken to the list of unpublished literature. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance. Best regards, Melinda Tignor WGI TSU Steve McIntyre wrote: Dear Sirs, The covering literature indicated that the website would provide access to submitted, in-press, or otherwise unpublished papers and reports that are cited in the draft WG I report. In connection with Chapter 6, I was unable to locate the following: Briffa et al, 2005. ( presumably this is the paper denoted as in prep. in the bibliography) DArrigo et al, submitted Hegerl et al, submitted Smerdon et al 2005. JGR (in review) Tett et al, submitted. Clim. Dyn. submitted. Wahl and Ammann 2004. (in review) Wilson and al, 2005 (referred to on page 6-31, but not in bibliography. Could you please post these on the website or email me pdf's. For these unpublished articles, could you also provide locations of FTP sites where the underlying data may be reviewed. Thank you for your attention, Stephen McIntyre -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IPCC WGI TSU NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory 325 Broadway DSRC R/AL8 Boulder, CO 80305, USA Phone: +1 303 497 7072 Fax: +1 303 497 5686/5628 Email: [10]ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IPCC WGI TSU NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory 325 Broadway DSRC R/AL8 Boulder, CO 80305, USA Phone: +1 303 497 7072 Fax: +1 303 497 5686/5628 Email: [11]ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IPCC WGI TSU NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory 325 Broadway DSRC R/AL8 Boulder, CO 80305, USA Phone: +1 303 497 7072 Fax: +1 303 497 5686/5628 Email: [12]ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov -- Recommended Email address: mmanning@al.noaa.gov ** Please note that problems may occur with my @noaa.gov address Dr Martin R Manning, Director, IPCC WG I Support Unit NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory Phone: +1 303 497 4479 325 Broadway, DSRC R/AL8 Fax: +1 303 497 5628 Boulder, CO 80305, USA -- ______________________________________________________________ Eystein Jansen Professor/Director Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen Allégaten 55 N-5007 Bergen NORWAY e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 Fax: +47-55-584330