date: Fri Apr 29 09:25:08 2005 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: AGG Recommendations to: Hans Teunissen Hans, This email bounced from Bruno's site. His email is Rudolf Bruno . Is Bruno on AGG? Probably doesn't matter as you'll send out the AGG recommendations to all of AOPC soon. Maybe you can highlight the extra things people said they would (e.g Carolina, she may be the only one) follow up. Cheers Phil Hans, Attached is David's file with a few additional changes. 1. OK to have unique in the section on Calculation of mean monthly stats. 2. I've removed the tongue-in-cheek sentence. I still expect Tom to send details to Mike at the end of September though. 3. I would go with your suggestion of adding Willis Is. to the GUAN, so approach Australia. Keep Townsville in the network though. 4. Finally wrt certificates, the AGG report should include the values for X and Y finally used by Tom to decide which GSN and GUAN sites get which stars on their certificates. Cheers Phil At 14:45 28/04/2005, Parker, David (Met Office) wrote: Hans Thanks. I have made a few changes which don't relate to your comments below. I think the 2nd paragraph under GUAN on page 5 aims to check that stations haven't become silent. If there are, say, 8 stations missing in each month, then if these stations differ from month to month then the stations are not silent, whereas if the same stations are always missing, then they are silent. I'm easy about Willis Island. Regards David On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 13:16, Hans Teunissen wrote: > Phil: > > Attached for your (and AGGs) comment is a copy of the AGG recs from > the AOPC session, following my copy editing of your version of > Thursday 14th. A few queries/commets: > > - I added the adjective 'unique' in the first sentence in first para > under 'Calculation of mean monthly statistics....' (p.2), in deference > to the 'advice' provided by things such as the Guide to Climatological > Practices (1983) (which in fact suggests it 'both' ways, depending on > the circumstances); or do you want to keep it as strong as it is now? > > - I assume 2nd para under C) (p.3) is tongue-in-cheek....? > > - what does 2nd para under GUAN (p.5) mean? > > - I've added the 5th para shown under GUAN on p. 5. I think it was > discussed, but perhaps outside the 'main' meeting. Willis Island has > been fully refurbished, at considerable expense, and it would be very > helpful to Australia for us to request its inclusion. We could ask for > it to *replace* Townsville, but I for one think that would be a > mistake - better to have 'over dense' than to regret having dropped a > station that's free to us (for now, anyway). Does AGG agree with what > I've put there? If so, the SG will write to Australia PR requesting > that Willis Island be added to GUAN. > > I'll finalize this version and send to all AOPC as soon as I have your > (and others') responses/comments. > > Cheers, > > Hans. > > > > > > ================================================================= > Dr. Hans W. Teunissen Tel: > +41.22.730.8086 > Global Climate Observing System (GCOS) Fax: +41.22.730.8052 > c/o World Meteorological Organization E-mail: > HTeunissen@wmo.int > 7 bis, Ave. de la Paix > CP 2300, CH-1211 Geneva 2 > Switzerland > ================================================================= -- David E Parker A2_W052 Met Office FitzRoy Road EXETER EX1 3PB UK email: david.parker@metoffice.gov.uk Tel: +44-1392-886649 Fax: +44-1392-885681 Global climate data sets are available from [1]http://hadobs.org Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------