cc: Tom Wigley ,"Thomas.R.Karl" , John.Lanzante@noaa.gov,"David C. Bader" , "'Dian J. Seidel'" , "'Francis W. Zwiers'" , Frank Wentz ,Karl Taylor , Leopold Haimberger , Melissa Free , "Michael C. MacCracken" , "'Philip D. Jones'" , Sherwood Steven , Steve Klein , "Thorne, Peter" , Tim Osborn ,Tom Wigley , myles ,Bill Fulkerson date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:53:02 -0800 from: carl mears subject: Re: Douglass et al. paper to: santer1@llnl.gov,Susan Solomon Hi All GRL just published our paper on correlations between MSU/AMSU tropospheric temperatures and total column water vaper over the tropical oceans (attached). One more piece of evidence that models and observations are not completely out to lunch. Depending on where your faith lies, this paper either 1. Uses observed data to validate the water vapor/temperature scaling in models. or...... 2. Uses the robust vapor/temperature scaling from models to suggest that large errors are not present in either of the most recent MSU/AMSU TLT products. I'm something of an agnostic when it comes to both models and data, so my view of it lies somewhere on the continuum between these two statements. -Carl Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\mears_2007gl031936.pdf"