cc: Sandy Tudhope , Francis Zwiers , Ricardo Villalba , Nick Graham , Tim Osborn , "Wahl, Eugene R" , Hugues Goosse , Gavin Schmidt , , Janice Lough , Kim Cobb , Caspar Ammann , Michael Schulz , Juerg Luterbacher , "Michael E. Mann" , Heinz Wanner , Keith Briffa , Phil Jones , Nadja Riedwyl , Thorsten Kiefer , Howard Cattle , Eystein Jansen , Andrew Weaver , "Williams, Larry" , Julie Brigham-Grette , Leah Christen , Urs Neu , david.m.anderson@noaa.gov date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:37:24 -0600 from: Jonathan Overpeck subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop - outcome! to: Christoph Kull Hi Christoph - it would be good to update the wording on the "data-related workshop" to make it clear that the primary focus of the workshop would be on understanding, communicating, and reducing uncertainty in proxy climate reconstructions. I thought the workshop in Wengen was outstanding in highlighting how far we've come with statistical reconstruction methods, and in understanding the relatively minor biases that they have. This made it clear that what is really needed now is more work towards the goal of reduced uncertainties in the proxies, as well as better communication of the uncertainties so that interdisciplinary use of the proxy data is improved. Of course, I also agree with those assembled that we could use this data uncertainty workshop to also make sure the PAGES/CLIVAR paleo data management efforts have the other foci and community support needed to achieve the goals of PAGES and CLIVAR. In this way, the proposed workshop would be the kind of decadal community status check and refinement effort that all long term endeavors should have. I'm going to cc this to Dave Anderson at the WDC-Paleo in Boulder so he knows what is up - I suggest PAGES work with him (and others) to help make sure the workshop gets the funding support it will need. Of course, others in the community will have to help too. I think it is also worth letting the PAGES/CLIVAR data management leaders like Dave know that the community thinks very highly of what they are doing and only wants to help them get even more community support (and data!) in the future, and in ways that are even more helpful to the community using the data. Anyhow - just a couple thoughts. Thanks again, Peck >Dear all, >Thanks a lot for the open discussions in Wengen! >Attached, you will find a summary list of the outcome as discussed on >Saturday morning. > >Main issues to move on include: >- summary publication >- workshop reports (EOS, PAGES/CLIVAR/EPRI Newsletters) >- setup of a modeling/reconstruction experiment >- start of planning for a "data related workshop" > >May I ask you (those who not already did it) to provide me some summary >slides from your presentation, including an extended caption. Larry Williams >will use them afterwards reporting to EPRI. > >All the best, thanks a lot and have a nice weekend! >Cheers, >Christoph > >-- >Christoph Kull >Science Officer >PAGES IPO >Sulgeneckstrasse 38 >CH-3007 Bern >Switzerland > >phone: +4131 312 31 53/33 >fax: +4131 312 31 68 > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Outcome1.doc (WDBN/«IC») (0013A5CA) -- Jonathan T. Overpeck Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth Professor, Department of Geosciences Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences Mail and Fedex Address: Institute for the Study of Planet Earth 715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 fax: +1 520 792-8795 http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/