cc: "Phil Jones" date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:59:37 -0700 (MST) from: "Kevin E Trenberth" subject: Re: cycle to: "Brian Hoskins" Hi guys I am at AMS: this is brief. One thing about skeptics like Singer is that they do not seem to realize that even natural climate variations have a cause, even if it is merely redistribution of heat within the ocean. Nowaday we can measure those factors and see whether or not that is happening, and of course it is not. Or it is not cooling in the deep ocean to it can warm at the surface etc. The whole argument has no basis in reality. However I only read the abstract. Cheers Kevin > Phil & Kevin > What do you know about Singer's latest work? See: > http://www.ncpa.org/pub/st/st279/st279.pdf > The other guy is now in the UK to publicise their book. > Do you have a critque or at least any comments on the ideas? > Brian > -- Dr. Kevin. E. Trenberth Climate Analysis Section NCAR PO Box 3000 Boulder CO 80307 ph: (303) 497 1318 www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/trenbert.html