cc: "C G Kilsby" , "Richard Dawson" , date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:29:15 +0100 from: Clare Goodess subject: Re: ARCC to: Phil Jones ,"Jim Hall" Hi Jim Many thanks for this. It looks a strong proposal with a good stakeholder team already on board. So yes, as Phil has already said we would like to be involved. I have one general question for Chris and Phil - which is relevant to any work we might do on the weather generator as part of ARCC, and is - are there any issues that we need to consider in relation to UKCIP08, particularly if the intention is to develop a publicly-available revision of what is available in the user interface. Maybe we need to have some informal discussion with UKCIP, BADC and DEFRA on this issue. Task 1, refers to temperature and rainfall, but presumably there is also interest in the other wgen variables such as radiation? In Task 2, will it be possible to look at joint probability climate events? In Task 5 - would it be possible to make use of UEA Tyndall's visualisation facilities? Given Phil's comments below, your second point in Task 1 'Uncertainty/sensitivity analysis of extremes and persistence' could be rephrased to something like 'Uncertainty/sensitivity analysis of extremes and improved simulation of persistence'. I assume the UEA RA time would primarily be for Colin Harpham, and the FEC days would be for Phil. If possible, I would like to have some named involvement in this proposal (though would anticipate a larger role in the critical infrastructure proposal) - so would be good to have a little salary for me as well (e.g., a month at most). Are the Hadley Centre happy to be involved as a stakeholder, i.e., with no funding?! Best wishes, Clare At 16:53 20/05/2008, Phil Jones wrote: > Jim, > I had a brief phone conversation with Chris yesterday. Some of > the thoughts there on > adapting the WG to better simulate hot dry spells would fit in > here. These spells > would clearly be more felt in urban environments as opposed to the > countryside, as > they are already that little bit warmer. Chris and I talked about > getting the drier spells > to warm up more quickly - as happens in reality sometimes. It > isn't just the mean temperatures. > Here's a few examples of the UHIs for London based on max and min > temps for DJF > and JJA. > An interesting aspect of this work which was for the GLA is > that a) there isn't > much of a trend in the differences over time (so the UHI isn't > getting worse) and b) > for max temps the outer London site at LHR has higher temps than LWC. > Getting the spells better in the WG is crucial, as it is the > spells that have the impacts. > > So yes to being involved if the study could incorporate this aspect. > > Cheers > Phil > > PS The joint CRU/Tyndall garden at Chelsea won an award > > http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/media/news/latest_news.shtml > > >At 12:41 20/05/2008, Jim Hall wrote: > >>Dear Clare >> >>In Sheffield we discussed potential joint bids to ARCC. Attached is a >>draft outline and spreadsheet work plan for the first of two we >>discussed. This one deals with integrated assessment of climate change >>in cities, building strongly on the Tyndall Cities work, so is submitted >>as a Tyndall Centre bid. The next, which I will get to you by the end of >>this week, will deal with national-scale analysis of critical >>infrastructure and will be based on a smaller consortium. >> >>Please can you/Phil: >>1. let me know whether you are interested in being involved in this >>proposal >>2. let me have any comments on the outline, especially your potential >>role in it. I recognise that the attached is twice as long as permitted >>- I will edit and compress when we are ready to submit. >>3. take a look at the outline resource allocation. Even though this is >>only an outline proposal we need to generate reasonably accurate costs. >> >>If you would like to give me a call to discuss, please ring me this >>week, as I will be on holiday next week. Otherwise, can you send your >>comments to me by Friday 30 May. I will then get going with the Jes >>outline proposal form and will require costing inputs from UEA for that. >> >> >>Best wishes >> >>Jim >> >> >>------------------------------------------- >>Professor of Earth Systems Engineering >>Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research >>School of Civil Engineering and Geosciences >>Room 3.19 Cassie Building >>Newcastle University >>NE1 7RU >>UK >> >>Phone: +44 191 222 3660 (Direct) >> +44 191 222 6319 (Secretary) >>Fax: +44 191 222 6669 >>Email: Jim.Hall@ncl.ac.uk >>http://www.ceg.ncl.ac.uk/profiles2/njh57 >> >>MSc in Flood Risk Management: >>http://www.ncl.ac.uk/cegs.cpd/flexiblelearning/frm.php >> >>Journal of Flood Risk Management: >>http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/jfrm_enhanced/ >> >> >> >> > >Prof. Phil Jones >Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 >School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 >University of East Anglia >Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk >NR4 7TJ >UK >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Dr Clare Goodess Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ UK Tel: +44 -1603 592875 Fax: +44 -1603 507784 Web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/ http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~clareg/clare.htm