cc: phil Jones , Keith Briffa , t.osborn@uea.ac.uk date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:26:07 -0400 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: EOS text to: Scott Rutherford HI Scott, I concur w/ your assessment--keeping the figure the way it is now is preferable in my opinion... mike At 02:23 PM 6/10/2003 -0400, Scott Rutherford wrote: Dear All, I agree that figure 1 is very busy, but I'm not sure that is a bad thing in this case because we aren't trying to highlight differences between reconstructions/models or single out one or two from the rest. I think the current figure illustrates the range of reconstructions, the range of models and how well they agree (similar to one of our original ideas of a "cloud of reconstructions"). If we put the models into a separate panel we will need a curve common to both panels that people can use as a reference. If we go with the two panel figure I suggest that the second panel include the models, the Mann et al. 1999 reconstruction with uncertainties and the instrumental record. I'll leave it to the group to decide. -Scott On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 01:16 PM, Michael E. Mann wrote: I don't really like the idea of changing the figure dramatically at this point. If we have to, I suggest the following options: 1) Take out one of the model simulation results--e.g. Gerber et al w/ the lower sensitivity 2) If we want to adopt Kevin's two panel strategy, then show the model results along w/ the gray-shaded uncertainty region from the top (reconstructions) panel. And show the instrumental record in both panels. Anyway, up to you guys... mike At 10:59 AM 6/10/2003 -0600, you wrote: Phil Thanks for the great work. Some reactions. 1) Fig. 1 is very busy and perhaps unduly crowded. My reaction is to take the model results out and put them in a separate panel. The separate panel would fit along side the key. But better below the main figure. Can we change "gridded and arealy weighted" to "gridded, area-weighted..".) What is "optimal borehole",? Should "optimal" be in quotes? 2) Fig. 2: Can we please add a country to each name for those that don't have them? Increased spacing between them would be nice. Thanks Kevin Phil Jones wrote: Dear All, Keith, Tim and I have been at this for part of the day. Scott has also redrawn Fig 1. Attached is the latest draft, which includes Kevin's from about 1 hour ago, but not Ray's latest email. Fig 1 from Scott is OK to us here. Fig 2 is a draft. Tim needs to space the series out a little. To use all these we've needed to add a load of references. Getting these and making the captions OK has taken most time and the drawing of Fig 2. Hopefully we can all agree to this in the next day or so, then I'll submit on say Thursday UK morning time, so you've all got all day today and tomorrow. We've been through the text carefully and all happy with it. Apologies - no time to make Fig 2 pdf. Hope all can see postscript. We still need to work on the captions and tidy the refs a little more. We'll be back at 8.30 tomorrow UK time. Peck - you've got 2 days to say yes/no ! Cheers Phil Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR [1]www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) Street address: 3080 Center Green Drive, Boulder, CO 80301 ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [2]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml ______________________________________________ Scott Rutherford Marine Research Scientist Graduate School of Oceanography University of Rhode Island e-mail: srutherford@gso.uri.edu phone: (401) 874-6599 fax: (401) 874-6811 snail mail: South Ferry Road Narragansett, RI 02882 ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [3]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml