cc: , , "'Eystein Jansen'" , "'Gabi Hegerl'" , "'Keith Briffa'" date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:06:56 +0100 from: "Piers Forster" subject: RE: solar forcing over the recent millennia to: "'Jonathan Overpeck'" , "'V. Ramaswamy'" Hi all This a draft of our solar and volcanic sections, so you can see where we have got to and what we intend to cover - note it is still some way off being complete! There is also a section at the start on land-use changes prior to 1750 that Richard Betts, one of our LAs wanted the Paleo chapter to consider Note also the brief sections on the climate response to solar and volcanic forcings, these may also fit better elsewhere Cheers Piers Piers Forster (p.m.forster@rdg.ac.uk) T +44 118 378 6020; F +44 118 378 8905 Department of Meteorology, University of Reading, RG6 6BB, UK -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Overpeck [mailto:jto@u.arizona.edu] Sent: 18 July 2005 18:54 To: V. Ramaswamy Cc: p.m.forster@reading.ac.uk; cddhr@giss.nasa.gov; Eystein Jansen; Gabi Hegerl; Keith Briffa Subject: Re: solar forcing over the recent millennia Hi Ram and Piers - might be good to share, and also to share w/ David Rind, Keith Briffa and Gabi, since we need to make sure all our chapters are compatible on the issue of solar. I believe, last we talked, that you were playing pre-20th century aspects. I think David tries hard to keep in touch w/ Judith L on these issues too. That should help. We're happy to share our text w/ you too. Thanks again, peck >Hi Piers, > >Would it be best to send to Jonathan Chap. 2's latest version of the >solar - and also volcano? Note that these sections are still at the >draft-stage. > >Ram > > > >On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: > >> Hi Fortunat et al. - thanks for this new >> material, and for the review of this new >> material. I think David Rind is up on the Chap 2 >> discussion of solar, and he's also a CA/liaison >> on Chap 9. Thus, he can help make sure we are >> consistent (best confirm, David). >> >> If we have it all right and it makes sense for >> Rob to be a CA, great (and thanks!). Rob - can >> you send a short cv to me and Eystein? >> >> thanks, peck >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >I have some text on solar for section 6.5.2. I >> >tried to be as brief as possible. >> > >> >I got also input from Rob Dorland for our chapter and I have summarized his >> >text, mainly in para 2.7.2.1, in the very >>last para of the attached document. >> > >> >(I have not yet checked his lower bound Maunder Minimum for the earlier >> >reconstruction, but will try to do so asap if >>this last paragraph survives. I >> >suspect the lower bound should be 0.25% reduction instead of 0.15%; I have >> >added Bard as additional reference which >>gives the high Maunder Minimum bound >> >of a 0.65% reduction in irradiance below the present mean level) >> > >> >KEITH AND DAVID could you check whether you >>agree with the writing. Bette has >> >already looked over it here at NCAR and found the expansion worthwhile. >> > >> >PECK AND EYSTEIN, can you put Rob van Dorland >>down as contributing author if >> >this expansion on solar forcing is welcomed. >> > >> >ROB: would you mind to send me the references >>for your text in endnote format? >> >(I usually use bibtex and are just in the transition). >> > >> >With best wishes, >> > >> >Fortunat >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >e-mail: joos@climate.unibe.ch; >> > >> >Until November 23 >> > National Centre for Atmospheric Research, Terrestrial Sciences, CGD >> > 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO, 80305 >> > ++1-303 497 13 44 (office) >> > >> > home address: >> > 3655 Emerson Avenue, Boulder, CO, 80305 >> > ++1-303 494 69 52 (home) >> > >> >After November 24 >> > Climate and Environmental Physics >> > Sidlerstr. 5, CH-3012 Bern >> > Phone: ++41(0)31 631 44 61 Fax: ++41(0)31 631 87 42 >> > Internet: http://www.climate.unibe.ch/~joos/ >> > >> >Attachment converted: Macintosh >> >HD:joos_Ch06_FOD_6.5.2_s#8A3ED.doc (WDBN/) >> >(0008A3ED) >> >Attachment converted: Macintosh >> >HD:dorland_Ch02s7_ZOD_pr#8A3EE.doc (WDBN/) >> >(0008A3EE) >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan T. Overpeck >> Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >> Professor, Department of Geosciences >> Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences >> >> Mail and Fedex Address: >> >> Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >> 715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >> University of Arizona >> Tucson, AZ 85721 >> direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >> fax: +1 520 792-8795 >> http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >> http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ >> -- Jonathan T. Overpeck Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth Professor, Department of Geosciences Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences Mail and Fedex Address: Institute for the Study of Planet Earth 715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 fax: +1 520 792-8795 http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\ch2topaleo19July.doc"