date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:10:41 +0100 from: "Naomi Law" subject: RE: Names and a few articles to: "Phil Jones" Thank you very much for this - and for talking to me earlier. It is good to have made contact with you and the CRU. I haven't fully digested everything here yet but am looking forward to doing so. Is it ok if I keep your contact details in our records so that, if appropriate, either I or my colleagues can get in touch again at a later stage of the research process? Thanks again and best wishes, Naomi ______________________________________________________________________________________ From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 22 July 2008 10:57 To: Naomi Law Subject: Names and a few articles Naomi, These names will just be starting points. Peru/Ecuador and the impacts of El Nino on civilizations across South America - Ricardo García Herrera Dto. Física de la Tierra II Facultad de CC Físicas Universidad Complutense Ciudad Universitaria s/n 28040 Madrid Spain tel (34)913944490 fax (34) 913944635 rgarciah@fis.ucm.es Polynesia - luc.ortlieb@bondy.ird.fr Luc ORTLIEB, Directeur de l'UR 055 "PALEOTROPIQUE" Paléoenvironnements tropicaux et variabilité climatique Institut de Recherche pour le Développement (IRD) 32 avenue Henri-Varagnat, F-93143 Bondy Cedex, France Tel. : (33) / (0)148025592, [1]mailto:Luc.Ortlieb@ird.fr Assistante: Nathalie Teinturier [2]mailto:Nathalie.Teinturier@ird.fr Tel.: (33) / (0)148025637 ; Fax: (33) / (0)148025554 Greenland Ice Dating Bo Vinther I don't have an email tail for him. I have attached a paper about AD 536 Bo also has a paper on the near exact dates of the Younger Dryas events about 11,000 years ago and two other more recent events 8.2 and 4.3 K years ago. In dating these ice cores Bo has also been dragged into the date of the Thera eruption (16th century BC) which led to the ending of the Minoan civilization. There have been programmes before on this, so I'd avoid this one. Dating of the event (to an exact year) has great implications for the dates of pharoahs in Egypt - and also the parting of the Red Sea. For background on this I'd take to Sturt Manning who is based at Cornell University in New York State. and finally Ireland paper attached about the event in 1740. The book Arctic Ireland is by Dickson (1997). Also attached a recent paper of mine - which is a review of documentary data and some of the myths about these sorts of data that prevail. This relates to the freezing of Thames in London (and why this doesn't happen now), vine growing in England and the Norse in Greenland. Climatically events may be one offs or a protracted cool/warm or wet/dry period. It is likely that effects wrt civilizations would likely come from the protracted events, except where a one off could induce a major cataclysm such as flood (inland and/or tidal), or a complete crop failure. I'm away on holiday all next week. Cheers Phil At 18:06 21/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Phil, That would be fine. I'll call as close to 9am as possible. Best wishes, Naomi ___________________________________________________________________________________ Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [3]http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.