date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:34 +0000 from: Tim Osborn subject: Fwd: Re: new(?) attack on your work to: Keith Briffa Keith - thought you might like to see Mike's response about the new paper - Tim >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:35:15 -0500 >To: Tim Osborn >From: "Michael E. Mann" >Subject: Re: new(?) attack on your work >Cc: rbradley@geo.umass.edu, mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu, > p.jones@uea.ac.uk, mann@virginia.edu > >Dear Tim, > >There is clearly a problem at GRL now. I don't know which editor is >allowing these papers in (Soon et al, now this one), but its clearly >beyond our control. > >The paper is all crap. I don't think I'll respond. "RealClimate" already >discredits their PCA centering convention claims, and our papers in >review and in press make this all moot... > >They can continue trying to go after MBH98--It's now chasing a ghost, >since we've all moved on to other methods, and other results, which >support the same contention. > >I can't allow myself to be sidelined with this sort of crap any further, > >Mike > >At 09:30 AM 1/12/05, Tim Osborn wrote: >>Hi Mike, >> >>with the aim of keeping you informed, rather than upsetting you, I >>thought I should forward you this manuscript from McIntyre and McKitrick >>- I've been told that it has just been accepted by GRL, though I can't >>vouch for that. None of the UEA lot reviewed it! >> >>You may already have seen it or know about it - I see you've already >>addressed some points about centre-ing of data prior to PCA on >>realclimate.org. Anyway, in case you haven't seen it, it's attached. >> >>Cheers >> >>Tim >> >> >> >>Dr Timothy J Osborn >>Climatic Research Unit >>School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia >>Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK >> >>e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk >>phone: +44 1603 592089 >>fax: +44 1603 507784 >>web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ >>sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm > >_______________________________________________________________________ > Professor Michael E. Mann > Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall > University of Virginia > Charlottesville, VA 22903 >_______________________________________________________________________ >e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 > http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm