date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:46:48 -0000 from: "Thorne, Peter (Climate Research)" subject: RE: Parliamentary debate and temperature data to: "Phil Jones" Ah. No decision has been made and now we are worried we are in warm water over it from a misleading parliment perspective. At least it'll speed a decision up one way or another. -- Peter Thorne, Climate Research scientist Met Office Hadley Centre, FitzRoy Road, Exeter, EX1 3PB. tel. +44 1392 886552 fax. +44 1392 885681 http://www.hadobs.org -----Original Message----- From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 06 November 2009 13:46 To: Thorne, Peter (Climate Research) Subject: Fwd: Parliamentary debate and temperature data Peter, I take it this response in the House means that the emails will go out fairly soon?! I was asked about this question by someone at DECC on Tuesday and I sent a reply which basically said what Joan Ruddock said. The question did mention UEA as well as MOHC - or whatever Lilley called you. Have a look at this link http://www.uea.ac.uk/hr/jobs/acad/atr841.htm Several of us have been at a meeting about these posts with Jacqui/Alastair. Although the Tyndall posts are vague, it could be worth you while talking to Neil Adger. "Neil Adger" . These 3 posts are nothing to do with ENV - the money comes from UEA. It is all very odd. Ian Renfrew was at the meeting and he and Jacqui felt that if someone with a hard science background applied they would definitely be considered. Another person to discuss these with could be Trevor. "Davies Trevor Prof (ENV)" ENV's top priority for a replacement is in Nathan's area. It just depends on how pushy you want to be. They do want good scientists who will be able to carve out research teams in a few years. The 3 Tyndall posts will be based in the CRU Building - that was agreed at the meeting. Cheers Phil >X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,692,1249257600"; > d="scan'208";a="10374906" >Subject: Parliamentary debate and temperature data >Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:14:29 -0000 >X-MS-Has-Attach: >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >Thread-Topic: Parliamentary debate and temperature data >Thread-Index: Acpe0k8/SGwGr+v4RmSCqmocsMNQfg== >From: "Jones, Gareth S (Climate Scientist)" > >To: "Evans, Dorothy" , > "Mitchell, John FB (Director of Climate Science)" > , > "Thorne, Peter (Climate Research)" , > >X-Canit-CHI2: 0.00 >X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN, f028) >X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 5.00] SPF(none,0) >X-CanItPRO-Stream: UEA:f028 (inherits from UEA:default,base:default) >X-Canit-Stats-ID: 35048525 - 341e1ceefe4e (trained as not-spam) >X-Antispam-Training-Forget: >X-Antispam-Training-Nonspam: >X-Antispam-Training-Spam: >X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 139.222.131.184 > >John, Peter, Phil and Dorothy, > >Regarding claims of refusal to release station data used in near >surface temperature records. >Peter Thorne suggested I should let you know about a question made in >parliament yesterday during the Copenhagen/climate debate and the >response by the Minister of State, Department of Energy and Climate >Change - Joan Ruddock. > >http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm091105/deb >text/91105-0014.htm >Column 1052 >Peter Lilley :- >"I hope that the Minister will tell us what is happening about the Met >Office Hadley centre's refusal to publish the basic figures it has >received from around the world that it uses to calculate its estimates >of the rise in surface temperatures throughout the world." > >http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm091105/deb >text/91105-0020.htm >Column 1090 >Joan Ruddock :- >"The right hon. Gentleman stated that the Met Office had not made data >available, and we have taken steps to try to make that happen. >The Met Office has written to all those who provided data to ask >whether they will agree to release those data." > > >Peter suggested that Ruddock may not have been quite right in her statement. > >Gareth >p.s. I heard the debate and am pretty sure that Lilley said >"Meteorological office Hadley institute" not "Met Office Hadley centre". > > > -- >Dr Gareth S. Jones Climate Research Scientist >Met Office Hadley Centre, FitzRoy Road, Exeter EX1 3PB, UK >Tel: +44(0)1392 886903 email:gareth.s.jones@metoffice.gov.uk Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----