cc: , date: Fri Mar 11 15:23:47 2005 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: AOPC-XI: 2nd Mailing to: "Hans Teunissen" Hans, Fine re the Mon Repos. Been emailing Dick re AGG. He asked for the big issues we should cope with re the GSN and GUAN. I said Africa. Now he's complaining that this is 80 countries. We have to start somewhere though, which is what I've told him. We also have to get Brazil to do more. They have apparently told Dick to leave them alone. Maybe Carolina Vera can be some help here? There is a workshop on making CLIMATs in Cairo relatively soon - Karpov is organising it. Dick should go to this if poss. Also we should send this group our recommendation re how to calculate CLIMATs, just to be sure they are not recommending countries do something new or different from what they always did. Geting a better absolute mean is one thing, but it will likely screw up the homogeneity of the long series. Cheers Phil At 13:46 11/03/2005, Hans Teunissen wrote: Thanks for the feedback/update, Phil. Re Item 6.7, that's the issue of whether to determine mean monthlies from max-plus-min-over-2 or from averages of hourly values. It was driven by the query from Malta, you may recall, and a certain Phil Jones volunteered Jones and Peterson to talk about it at AOPC (I've just forwarded you some background info I have). Idea is to get CCl onside, I think. I have some other bumff on this, but not in an easily-sendable form. I'll have it at the meeting of course. Maybe we should also try to get some CCl-types there for that (besides Tom, of course!) - I'll check with WCP here. Glad you'll be at the dinner - a bit of a tradition now, I guess. We had considered moving it elsewhere, just for a change, but that would complicate the transportation (unless we book at La Perle du Lac, for example, but that would probably blow the week's per diem!). People are scattered at various hotels, including the Mon Repos. Going for dinner after the session here means it''s easy to at least get to dinner, and the trip to hotel would have to be done anyway. A bientot, Hans. >>> Phil Jones 11.03.05 14:20:24 >>> Hans, I'm in contact with Dick about AGG matters. We're trying to come up with priorities for the next year. Thanks for giving the AGG sufficient time in the current agenda. As for the rest of the agenda, I can talk a little about paleo (say 20 mins). Also some things on the Reanalysis in area 10. Glad you've got David Parker talking about the Surface Pressure WG. I can chip in there if needed. Also I may be able to say something more on the vertical temperature trends as I'm on the NRC review of this CCSP report. Consolidation of the GSN will come from the AGG report back. Not sure what you mean by mean monthly statistics in 6.7. Hopefully Tom P does. OK for the dinner at the Mon Repos. I don't think we're staying there - see Natasha as to where we are, but still OK. I just thought you might want to consider somewhere else nearer to our hotels. If I recall correctly I'm at the Edelweiss in town. I'm in Bologna the week before, so can't pick up any files after April 5. Cheers Phil At 14:17 09/03/2005, you wrote: Dear All: Attached please find an update of the Provisional Agenda for the AOPC-XI session next month in Geneva. This is based on the Agenda Outline distributed in January, taking into account suggested modifcations and giving more detail re the anticipated timing of the meeting. We have also assigned document numbers where we think appropriate, and would ask that participants review this assignment carefully for any needed modifcations, additions or deletions (silence means you will provide the document indicated for your item!). Documents will be posted on the AOPC-XI Web site ([1]http://www.wmo.ch/web/gcos/aopcXI) which we'll activate next week. I have also attached another copy of the Action Items status list to remind everyone of ongoing and/or expected activities. Please send any corrections to the agenda back to me (and Mike) as soon as possible, and we can make appropriate adjustments in the next version. As usual, we have planned an informal group dinner (self-funded) at the Mon Repos for the Tuesday evening (see Agenda). You might wish to let us know if you'll be available to attend that dinner; we'll finalize just before then, as usual. We look forward to seeing everyone next month in Geneva for a productive and enjoyable meeting. Best regards, Hans Teunissen. ================================================================= Dr. Hans W. 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