cc: k.briffa@uea.ac.uk date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:15:12 -0500 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: paper in this Friday's Science to: Tim Osborn sure thing--thanks a bunch Tim, Will not forward to anyone else. The paper looks great, the analysis is more or less what I surmised from the abstract/blurb that I received. As you're no doubt aware, you're sure to get some unwanted attention from the usual suspects, but the analysis seems clear and robust, and you haven't left much wiggle room for the contrarians, near as I can tell. So good luck! will forward you any email correspondences I have w/ press on this. Right now, I'm fielding questions from "National Geographic" (a very well known popular science magazine in the states), by the way, do you mind if we do a short RC post on this after the embargo breaks? We'll probably just provide the abstract and a link to the paper... mike p.s. not sure if you're aware, but Science is considering requiring VS04 to retract their article, and a comment pointing out a major error in their claimed implemention of MBH98 by Wahl, Amman, and Ritson is in press (I believe--would need to confirm w/ the authors) in Science. Will forward you more info when I have it. So the situation for VS04 is even worse than you allude to in your brief comments on this. Its completely wrong. Doesn't mean that calibration methods don't have potential systematic biases that need to be taken into account, but it does mean that VS04 is entirely irrelevant to any legitimate discussions of this... Tim Osborn wrote: Hi Mike, I am wary of Science's embargo, but I've included the *uncorrected* galleys for you to look at. The corrections were only minor wording changes here and there (sometimes the copy-editor inadvertently changes the meaning!) so it gives you a 99% accurate idea of the whole paper. Obviously, please don't pass it on to anyone. Cheers Tim At 15:48 07/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote: Dear Tim, Keith. Indeed, I'm already getting inquiries. I have the abstract to work w/ so I feel I can probably extrapolate a bit. In short, it sounds like you guys sorts of re-did "Soon and Baliunas", but you did it right! The conclusions sound similar to the Bradley/Diaz/Hughes Science perspective from a couple years back, but I take it you were more quantitative and rigorous (e.g. through the definition of appropriate thresholds). Anyway, let me know if you think there is anything else I need to know. Based on the info I have, I feel I'm pretty safe in giving the study a thumbs up in my press interviews. thanks, and congrats on the paper, mike Tim Osborn wrote: Hi everyone, I just wanted to give you advance notice that Keith and I have a paper appearing in Science on Friday (10th Feb) called: "The spatial extent of 20th century warmth in the context of the past 1200 years" I haven't got a copy of the paper to circulate to you yet (due to Science's embargo) but it is, as you can guess from the title, related to multi-proxy reconstructions. I will send a PDF as soon as I have one. In the meantime, I thought I'd let you know if case any media contact you (I guess this is more likely to be US Media) because Science has just made an embargoed press release today. [Martin & Anders - this is based on the analysis I showed you at the MITRIE meeting last summer] Cheers Tim Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: [1]t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [2]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: [3]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [4]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [5]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: [6]t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [7]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: [8]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [9]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [10]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm