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date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:55:50 -0400
from: Tom Crowley <tcrowley@duke.edu>
subject: POLL ON SOON-BALIUNAS
to: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@virginia.edu>

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Hi there,

we need some data on Soon and Baliunas.  one of my concerns is that 
they only publish in low impact journals and completely bypass the 
normal give and take of presentations at open scientific meetings 
(for example, I think I have probably heard 100 presentations overall 
from the people on this mailing list).

it is therefore very important to inquire for the sake or our 
exchanges with reporters/legislators etc as to how often any of you 
may have heard Soon or Baliunas give a talk in an open meeting, where 
they could defend their analyses.

please respond to me as to whether you have heard either of them 
present something on their paleo-analyses (I think I heard Baliunas 
speak once on her solar-type star work, but that doesn't count).

I will let you know the results of the poll so that we may all be on 
the same grounds with respect to the data and reporting such 
information to press inquiries/legislators etc.

further fyi I list below the journal impact for six 
geophysical/climate/paleoclimate journals:

Paleoceanography  3.821
J. Climate   3.250
J. Geophysical Res. (Climate)  2.245
Geophysical Research Letters  2.150
The Holocene  1.852
Climate Research  1.016

Science and Nature are much higher (26-30)  but there citation 
numbers are I believe inflated with respect to our field because 
their citation ranking also includes many very widely cited biology 
publications.

hope to hear from  you soon, Tom

-- 
Thomas J. Crowley
Nicholas Professor of Earth Systems Science
Dept. of Earth and Ocean Sciences
Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences
Box 90227
103  Old Chem Building Duke University
Durham, NC  27708

tcrowley@duke.edu
919-681-8228
919-684-5833  fax
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