date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:25:15 +0600 from: Rashit subject: Re: Climate Audit to: Tom Melvin Dear Tom, files with living trees data attached, that I use to update Yamal chronology (these data have been used among many others in Esper et al. 2009: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/122374111/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0). First letters in ID means river (valley): TNL - Tanlova-yakha; HDT, M, X - Khadyta-yakha; POR - Porza-yakha; all others - Yadayakhodyyakha (you can see the map of this area in Holocene, 2002, V. 12, N 6 (ADVANCE-10k issue), fig 1, page 718). In Excel file - the same data but with age of rings (from central ring). As to photo - did you mean landscape photographs (old and recent)? Unfortunately no photos there are for Yamal. Stepan Shiyatov has published recently book with comparative photos in Polar Urals. Two examples from this book are attached. If you mean this kind of photographs I ask Stepan to find more impressive pictures. Best regards Rashit Hantemirov Institute of Plant and Animal Ecology 8 Marta St., 202 Ekaterinburg, 620144 Russia Tel: +7(343) 260-64-94 Fax: +7(343) 260-65-00, 260-82-56 E-mail: rashit@ipae.uran.ru Вы писали 3 октября 2009 г., 19:00:44: > Rashit, > Keith is being criticised by Climate Audit for his selection of > recent (living) data in the Yamal chronology. We need to say how the > data was selected, showing the strength of common signal, the local > sites etc. I have the JAH and POR site data. Please could you send me > the YAD (presumably Yadayakhodyyakha River) ring width data. If there > are more recent living site data (those that you would allow us to > use) these might help to illustrate our discussion. > Also if there are before and after photographs illustrating the > growth increase/change these may be useful. > Keith is drafting a reply to the criticisms and we would want to > include you and Stepan in our reply. > Tom > Dr. Tom Melvin > Climatic Research Unit > University of East Anglia > Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. > Phone: +44-1603-593161 > Fax: +44-1603-507784 Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\LIV.RWL" Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Liv-yamal.xls" Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\110.jpg" Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\111.jpg"