date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:41:28 -0400 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: Don't become a TV presenter and forget the day job ! to: Phil Jones thanks Phil, well it would be a shame if you don't go, we certainly won't have much of a session in that case. I hope you will go, but I agree that if we cannot even put together a session plan, we're in a tight spot... Lorraine has a conference near Pisa the week before, so it was an easy call for me to go in any case, but it will be quite a disappointment if there is no Holocene session. I will contact Mike McCracken to see if there is anything he can do, talk to you later, mike Phil Jones wrote: Mike, Yes - I have all from you. One day you should get a more complete paper to look over. No idea when though. I'm getting more annoyed with IUGG - thinking of not bothering to go, even! I can't think of who else to contact on this. The email I sent went to all those who should be taking action! None of the people who sent abstracts for our session know anything, except you - and that is that there is complete chaos. Cheers Phil At 16:15 16/05/2007, you wrote: thanks Phil, will continue to bug these guys myself. I think you have everything you need from me on the review paper, right? I'm hoping the IUGG people get back to you soon. This has been truly appalling! mike Phil Jones wrote: I'll put a PS at the front to Gavin re Wengen! Keith and Tim here are doing things on this. Gene has sent something to Caspar - maybe that is like sending something to a black hole. Also Francis told me last week he'll be doing something in the next few weeks. SO, we'll need your part soon ! Remind Caspar is you're in contact. Also PS to Mike - nothing from Perugia! Mike, Gavin, Probably not worth doing anything at the moment, as this doesn't seem to be getting any attention here. [1]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6655449.stm This link to something Mike Hulme has said might be more up your street. There is also a link on the BBC site to the Christian college view of Climate Change/Global Warming. I liked the name of one of contributor's who thought it all a Left-wing plot - Dr Thomas Ice a Senior Theologian at Liberty University. He could certainly do with thawing out. The report contrasted this college with a Menonite one in Virginia. It is amazing how easy it is to guess the side people are on before they speak! Cheers Phil At 16:55 15/05/2007, Michael E. Mann wrote: thanks for forwarding Phil, Its amazing how much nonsense they are able to pack into a few pages. The Beck Co2 stuff we just dealt w/ last week, and most of the other issues have been dealt with in the past at RC. However, if folks think this is getting enough attention, maybe we need a specific RC post debunking this. I've copied to Gavin for his thoughts too, mike Phil Jones wrote: Dear All, FYI, for what it's worth and it isn't worth anything! Mike - you could critique this on Real Climate, but I guess like all of us you're fed up with all this sort of stuff. This is supposed to be a reputable journal. I even had something there years ago - maybe I should withdraw it in protest ! Cheers Phil Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [2]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [3]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [4]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [5]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [6]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [7] http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [8]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [9]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [10]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm