date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:13:10 -0400
from: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@virginia.edu>
subject: Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Harvard-Smithsonian Climate study]
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     Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:41:55 -0600
     From: Jerry Meehl <meehl@ucar.edu>
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     Mike,
     Thanks!  It never ceases to amaze me what tactics the naysayers come up
     with--this latest, using what would appear to be a quasi-legitimate
     "journal" to publish results that they then claim are peer-reviewed and
     mainstream to launch a disinformation campaign, is very devious.  Plus
     it appears they have won--the current administration is on their
     side--but they keep it up anyway.  Bizarre.
     Johannes Loschnigg (the AMS congressional fellow I mentioned) may
     contact you directly if he needs more ammunition in his capacity of
     climate person assigned to deal with these issues in Liebermann's
     office.
     Thanks again!
     Jerry
     "Michael E. Mann" wrote:
     >
     > HI Jerry,
     >
     > This is crap of the worst kind--it was written explicitly for
     > political purposes; there is no science there at all--the mainstream
     > media completely ignored it, having figured that out, but various
     > right-wing groups (such as "Western Fuels Association") have continued
     > to try to promote this in fringe media circles and through political
     > channels within washington DC (so the story continued to appear on web
     > sites like "Techcentralstation" and Murdoch-supported newspapers).
     >
     > I'll forward a whole bunch of emails (in confidence) that should
     > clarify the situation. We've all decided that this is so bad a direct
     > response cannot even be made. Phil Jones and I, and Ray Bradley, Henry
     > Diaz, and Malcolm Hughes are writing two review papers which will
     > dismiss much of what they've said.
     >
     > please feel free to contact me for more information,
     >
     > cheers,
     >
     > mike
     >
     > p.s. NYT, Scientific American, and a few other journalists are working
     > on  exposes of Baliunas and co., and those should appear soon. It
     > looks like Chris Defrietas, the editor at "Climate Research"
     > responsible for publishing the Baliunas et al piece, and numerous
     > other dubious other awful articles by "skeptics" over the past couple
     > years, will be dismissed as a result of this latest act.
     >
     > At 09:37 AM 5/12/2003 -0600, you wrote:
     >
     > > Hi Mike,
     > >
     > > I am starting to get media calls on this study:
     > >
     > >
     > > >
     > > > [1]http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/press/pr0310.html
     > > >
     > >
     > > Given the authors' political motivations, I have doubts about it,
     > > but I
     > > am sure you must be involved with the critique that will emerge from
     > > the
     > > scientific community, and may be getting calls yourself.  They claim
     > > they have surveyed many sources and have proved that the 20th
     > > century
     > > hasn't been as warm as the Medival warm period, or something like
     > > that.
     > > The obvious direction they are taking this is that the warming we
     > > have
     > > seen in the 20th century is not such a big deal or even unique in
     > > the
     > > past 1000 years, in obvious contradiction to your work and the IPCC
     > > conclusions.  So I was curious how you have been responding to
     > > people
     > > calling you about this study.  Also, the AMS congressional fellow in
     > > Liebermann's office, Johannes Loschnigg, is getting questions about
     > > it
     > > and I may put him in contact with you to help him out.
     > >
     > > Thanks!
     > >
     > > Jerry
     >
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