date: Fri Aug 7 09:05:16 2009 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: geoeng to: Tom Wigley , Ben Santer Tom, Ben The best precip dataset to use is from GPCC. [1]http://gpcc.dwd.de Then find the window about GPCC products, which are all gauge-only based products. GPCC rarely write anything up, which annoys Kevin, Aiguo and others. GPCC also can't release the raw precip totals. VASClimO 51-00 is best as the gauges are mostly the same for the whole 50-year period. In a paper almost accepted in JGR where we are comparing ERA-INTERIM (for 1989-2008) we used v.4 of the Full Data Reanalysis. I've attached the paper recently resubmitted - don't pass on! Kevin and Aiguo were 2 of the 3 reviewers. They both wanted the PREC/L dataset added in. It was - in Fig 12 and a Table. Figures 10-12 are the precip ones. These are continental precip averages, so not global land and no ocean estimates. Trenberth and Dai (2007) is where the figure in this Science Perspectives piece comes from (paper attached). It seems to be after SOI subtraction! This SOI extraction is probably better done regionally than as one domain (global land). SOI will cause excess rain in some areas and deficits in others at the same time. Will read the paper over the weekend. Cheers Phil At 02:54 07/08/2009, Tom Wigley wrote: Ben, Phil, I think this paper is rubbish. Please comment. Phil -- how well do we know the drop in precip after Pinatubo? What would be the best time series data to use. By the way, when one uses comined mitigation and geoeng, the effect on global precip is the opposite. (Pls ignore this when commenting on the attached.) Tom. Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------