cc: Eystein Jansen , raynaud@lgge.obs.ujf-grenoble.fr, keith.alverson@pages.unibe.ch, Stephen.Juggins@ncl.ac.uk, k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, beer@eawag.ch, john.birks@bot.uib.no, s.patrick@ucl.ac.uk, j.holmes@ucl.ac.uk, j.dearing@liverpool.ac.uk, Rick Battarbee , P.J.Valdes@bristol.ac.uk, joos , Eduardo Zorita , duplessy@lsce.cnrs-gif.fr date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:09:52 +0000 from: Simon Tett subject: Re: Draft minutes Holclim scoping meeting Jan 15 to: André Berger Andre, I asked the UK policy people in Defra what they thought! Their view is that as we are not likely to head into an ice age soon it is not something they consider very important. Do you think we will be going into an ice age quickly in the next 100 years or so ? (or even 1000 years). Simon André Berger wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > As I told many of you, I was unable to attend the London January 15 > meeting although as a member of SC Holivar and CEE EAG on Global Change > and Ecosystems I was very interested by your discussions. > > One point seems to me fundamental and missing in the report on HOLOCENE > or LONGER ? > Policy makers are indeed interested by knowing > > * whether or not our interglacial will come to an end soon ? > * what is the climate variability within an in terglacial (are > extremes frequent or not ?) > * what is the regime of the ocean ciculation in an interglacial and > especially during the warmest times ? > > Holocene (HOCLIM) can answer only partly those questions, in particular > how is an interglacial ending ? Therefore I strongly support the idea > of having a proposal focusing on Interglacials not only Holocene. I > however understand very well the problem of the Holocene Community who > would like to show a coherent work. My feeling is th at it comes one > year too late and I am among those who regret it. > > I draw your attention that we have to think very seriously about how we > are going to be judged by the Expert Advisory Group. They have nothing > to say in the selection procedure of proposals but they are very > influential to decide whether or not paleoclimate is necessary in the > next Framework Programme. > > I will attend our HOLCLIM 22 March meeting. > > Best Regards, > > André > > > > At 11:38 28/01/200 4 +0100, Eystein Jansen wrote: > >> Dear friends, >> >> Please find enclosed the draft minutes from our Jan 15 meeting, which >> Heather put together. >> I would be grateful to receive comments and corrections soon. >> Please also note that the next meeting is March 22, also at UCL in >> London, and the tasks for preparing draft outlines of the proposal >> work packages (questions). >> I will work on an outline of the proposal, report from discussions >> with Brussels in the next 1-2 weeks, and send this out to you for >> comments. >> I would be very grateful if you could think of who we should invite >> to write on Q5 Extreme events and the hydrological cycle. >> Name and acronym! >> >> Eystein >> -- >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Eystein Jansen >> Professor/Director >> Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and >> Dep. of Geology, Univ. of Bergen >> Allégaten 55 >> N-5007 Bergen >> NORWAY >> e-mail: eyst ein.jansen@geo.uib.no >> Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 >> Fax: +47-55-584330 >> ----------------------- >> The Bjerknes Training site offers 3-12 months fellowships to PhD students >> More info at: www.bjerknes.uib.no/mcts >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ** *********************************************************************** > Prof. A. BERGER > Université catholique de Louvain > Institut d'Astronomie et de Géophysique G. Lemaître > 2 Chemin du Cyclotron > B-1348 LOUVAIN-LA-NEUVE > BELGIUM > Tel. +32-10-47 33 03 > Fax +32-10-47 47 22 > E_mail: berger@astr.ucl.ac.be > http://www.astr.ucl.ac.be/users/berger/index.html > ********************** ********************** > -- Dr Simon Tett Managing Scientist, Data development and applications. Met Office Hadley Centre (Reading Unit) Meteorology Building, University of Reading Reading RG6 6BB Tel: +44 (0)118 378 5614 Fax +44 (0)118 378 5615 Mobile: +44-(0)77 538 80696 I work from home about 2 days/week. Tel: +44 (0)20 8874 2751 E-mail: simon.tett@metoffice.com http://www.metoffice.com